Is the "surge" working?
In anticipation of the September report by General Petraeus, I pose the question "is the 'surge' working?".
By that, I am specifically interested in whether or not our temporary increase in troops to Iraq and the change in tactics taken are positively affecting a political solution that we find both necessary and sufficient for us to withdraw from Iraq in the long term. Does the "surge" create legitimacy in a secular central government with a monopoly on the use of force? Does it reduce factionalism in a political environment that is spiralling toward an open civil war? Does it "stand up" a central authority that is capable of holding the country together AND look after our interests in the region as an ally after we leave?
The above paragraph is, in my humble opinion, the very bare minimum we should accept as "victory" in Iraq considering the considerable sacrifice made by a narrow class of Americans (and considerable number of non-Americans in American uniforms).
I suspect that Bush and his dwindling supporters will blow a lot of chaff regarding how the "surge" has resulted in fewer attacks on American contractors and/or other meaningless statistics, but none of that matters one iota if it doesn't positively affect the grand strategic objective. Bottom line is whether or not the surge is making the Iraqi people believe in a central government with a monopoly on the use of force that is friendly to our interests OR whether they are increasingly factionalized and see the only legitimate authority in the hands of sectarian factions, regional warlords, and/or conficting ideologies. Anything else is meaningless window dressing.
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I heard Petraeus say something the other day about how we're doing great against AQ now. Which sounds great until you realize that AQ has never been a major force in Iraq, and that the Army has in the past mostly downgraded the effect of their operations there relative to local sunni and shiite insurgent/militia groups. He also indicated recently that we'd have to be there for years to reach our goals, and since he must know that a long-term commitment is looking like a political impossibility.
So my current guess is that the plan is to focus on creating a narrow victory over AQ in Iraq by arming and buying off local sunni tribal leaders, and then withdrawing to let the two sides battle it out.
I suspect you are right on the money there. Arming the Sunni militias may make our "allies" in Saudi Arabia happier about the whole situation, but it is really not a solution so much as a last act of defiance against a Shiite majority. I mentioned this numerous times before, but it bears repeating. It is really just flushing cement down the toilets on the way out of town since it assures an armed sectarian faction the ability to affect greater bloodshed in an eventual civil war.
AQ in Iraq may make for great press here in the US, but the reality on the ground is that they have very little influence among Iraqis. They are pretty much the political wing of our Sunni "allies" -- effectively Right Wing death squads in the mold of so many Latin American proxy wars. Think of them as Saudi-backed "contras". Our political confusion regarding their influence and significance may play well for the Fox Nuisance crowd, but they are little more than a side story.
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Which is, if you think about it, exactly how a Al Qaeda came about to be in first place -- through US achieving a narrow victory over Soviet occupation in Aghanistan by arming tribal leaders and buying off local warlords, who were then left to their own devices.
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Yup. And the above is precisely why we should be cooperating with Iran rather than obstructing their progress. They appear to be the only outside force capable of affecting a solution we can live with: a stable Iraq with a central government with a monopoly on the use of force. It may not play well in Tel Aviv or Mecca, but it's a hell of a lot better than the Talibanistan or Yugoslaugherteria that we seem to be creating.
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The GAO's take on Iraq.
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Opium production in Afghanistan is at record levels, I guess you could call that success.
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And they've managed to raise production during wartime. I admire their "can-do" spirit.
How does "Rosie the Opium Poppie Harvester" translate out to?
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I don't know. Something like this?
I'd be interested to hear Pigpen's take on the surge. Y'know, since he's over there and all.
This was posted on the New York Times' Op-Ed page about a month ago regarding the surge. Definitely not a glowing propogandized government report, and it still asks some hard questions at the end, but it details some successes that have happened as a result of the surge, and it certainly doesn't consign it to abject failure from the get-go.
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I don't think she's trying to look like Rosie.
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From what I understand, in IRAQ, mind, not Afghanistan, we're making serious gains against AQ, who have almost completely alienated themselves from the Iraqi people, the Kurds are doing wonderfully (except for the "everyone else hate hate hate hate hates us" part), but the problem now, is the sectarian violence. That isn't working out the way we'd hoped.
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Once again, it appears, at least to me, that AQII is really nothing more than a red herring. Of all the folks killed or captured by American forces in Iraq, fewer than 1% have been AQII. The vast majority have been Sunni tribals or Iraqi nationalists. By in large, until recently, we've pretty much left the Kurds and Shiites alone.
The problem of sectarian violence is certainly a big one, but it is merely symptomatic. The REAL issue is that no one save a few deluded folks living in the Green Zone honestly believes that the central government amounts to anything but a VERY perishable American puppet regime. No one regards it with anything approaching legitimacy and THEREFORE they look for security in whichever strongman is able to protect them and provide them basic services. The ones that have succeeded are folks like SCIRI, Sadr, PKK, and others in their ilk (mostly along the Hezbollah model btw).
The moment a state run hospital goes up, the factions run in, kill the political hack administrators and claim it as a sectarian facillity. If it looks like the Americans want to fight for it, they dynamite the whole mess and disappear into the woodwork. It isn't in the interest of anyone with the muscle to affect politics to go with the American program.
In an ironic way, the statistics Bush will undoubtably raise as evidence of a successful "surge" will probably be much more damning if examined with the requisite skeptism of the realist. There is a decrease in violence in places like Basra because they have succeeded in their ethnic cleansing. This is largely true of large parts of Baghdad as well. The "stability" comes from sectarian control and does more to undermine the legitimacy of the central government than even outright ethnic violence.
In the end, the political benchmarks are far more important than whatever lame statistics Bush will try to flog. And frankly, we aren't anywhere close to showing progress.
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The scenario of Taliban ascendance.
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With Bush showcasing his "surge success" in Anbar, I thought I'd bump this up.
Backing the Sunni militias in Anbar has, effectively, legimitated the actions of ethnic cleansers. If this "security" is supposed to get us closer to an acceptable political solution, why aren't we supplying guns to the Janjawid?
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I noted how CNN this morning played his trip up, but no mention of how things have suddenly improved. To my knowlege, none of the major news outlets are looking under the hood of this new "strategy for stability", and they all seem to be accepting the statements that it is the troop surge that is working.
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Yup. It's extremely disappointing. I would generally expect this sort of whitewash from Fox, but the lack of curiosity from the other outlets seems almost Soviet.
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Interesting Newsweek piece regarding an alternate explanation for the incremental decrease in violence in certain regions.
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Before I post this, let me state that I'm admittadly too ignorant to have a real opinion on this. I follow it, but for some reason, something's not clicking. I'm just trying to add to the discussion.
Our nation's premier publication, the Wall Stree Journal, had a front page story on the new strategy that is apparently working in Iraq now. To summarize, the US is giving money to local strongmen that promise to bring civility to their region and essentially bypassing the central government, the very government they claim to put so much faith in. The short term results seem to be great (according to this article), but I can't imagine this is a good thing in the long term.
Some selected excerpts (it's a pay site):
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I think you get it just fine. We are, in effect, paying local street gangs to "keep order" in neighborhoods at the expense of the legitimacy of the central government. It's not a lot different than paying the Bloods and the Crips to rule L.A.
That said, it appears that the real story here is that we seem to be concentrating our efforts among the Sunni militias. If my deeply cynical side is right (and it often is), Bush's brain trust may actually be looking for the next Saddam among the Sunnis. They need us more than we need them since their continued existance is largely dependent on American forebearance and Shiite disorganization. If either were to run in short supply, it is pretty clear they would, at the very least, become politically and economically marginalized and possibly far worse.
The cold-hearted geopolitician in me is secretly saying "it's about freaking time", though I think the effort is far too little and far too late. The Sunnis are not nearly strong enough to put the Shiites back under their heels and the Shiites are far too emboldened by their recent gains to live under servitude again.
In the end, Bush will opt for the half-assed middle ground -- one that neither supports the Sunnis enough to dominate nor weakens them enough to force them to negotiate away their position of privilege to the Shiites. And the ferocity of the resultant civil war will be entirely on his shoulders.
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You mean it isn't already?
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Advisors tell Bush "stay the course" ahead of the report from Petraeus and Crocker. Weren't we waiting to hear from these guys before we made any decisions?
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Word is, Petraeus's report was written in the White House. That's the Beltway wonk rumor, anyway.
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The report was written a long time ago. The report has always been the same. It always WILL be the same. Don't we all know that it will acknowledge setbacks but note that the latest strategy shows signs of promise and that only the firm commitment of American power to Iraq will stave off a disaster of staggering proportions, both to the Iraqi people and to U.S. prestige around the world?
Whoa. My head was spinning there for a moment, Funken.
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Glenn Greenwald did a pretty thorough job of discrediting that op-ed here and here.
Also, my favourite military curmudgeon William Lind on the chances of restoring an Iraqi state:
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."
(Your quoting kind of fell apart after the second article...edit - unless that's Lind speaking? I'm not quite sure which is his and which is yours in that quote section.)
The use of child fighters and the Balkanization of Iraq without government mandate makes me think of Somalia. But I believe Iraq's neighbors will intervene if things get that bad after we leave. I can't see them tolerating African model Lord's Army clones wandering around near their borders.
The next time we turtle up in Baghdad, it will be for good. We've gone from trying to control the whole country, to handing over parts of it and leaving outposts, and unless we opt for a re-conquest, the next step will be to pull our focus into Baghdad more and more as troop levels plateau and start to drop. The best that strong local leaders can do is counteract a vacuum in the central government, and that seems to me to be part of what we are preparing for.
If we can't tie the local leaders to the central government in meaningful ways, we've lost.
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Ah sorry, I was in a bit of a hurry when I posted that, and managed to forget that you can do nested quotes on this board. I edited in to make it clearer.
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."
WASHINGTON - President Bush's top two military and political advisers on Iraq will warn Congress on Monday that making any significant changes to the current war strategy will jeopardize the limited security and political progress made so far, The Associated Press has learned.
Surprise, surprise. No change in Iraq until Jan. 2009. Probably not after that, either. President Hillary will want to succeed where the Republicans failed, and she'll be arrogant enough to think she can.
So the strategy that we said we would not do, helping the lesser of the two "evils", is paying some minor dividends, so we'll just keep doing that for awhile and see how it does long term?
I think the democratic president will copy Nixon's "Peace with Honor" strategy, we'll call it a draw, pull out, and let the civil war commence in full fury.
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