Interesting.

I wonder if someone will be able to just start at level without ever having leveled a character to 60 or 70? The cynic in me feels as though that this is hardly a problem as I encounter people everyday who I swear just purchased their character that morning.

I just hope that they allow people who are just starting out, like my coworkers, to immediately roll a death knight just to have a chance of getting a couple of characters up to the mid 60's.

Introducing a mentoring aspect would be great. My wife doesn't play as often as I do, so when she comes back, I've far outstripped her characters in gear, levels, cash... If there was some way for us to play together without penalizing her XP gain, that would be excellent.

Hey, I saw you in Feralas and I was questing on those quests no one cares about.

I'm not against faster leveling 1-60 but honestly who is having problems with this? Have we forgotten that there is already rest xp? I'm not lying when I say this, but I've gone from 1-60 in a month (on a mage), and that was with only average effort. If I had mapped out what quests to do from 1-60 I probably could have done it in 15 days.

But here is what I don't get, what is there to do at level 60 that is so much better than level 10? Raiding and PVP. Raiding is a punishment if you ask me. PVP is better at high levels I'll grant you as you don't get rolled by twinks (although you do get rolled by raiders) But beyond that I have way more fun walking the world and experiencing the game than I do listening to a raid leader in Vent read off a strat from WoWwiki and repeatedly dying.

I say don't ruin the game by making it even easier to level out of the good part of the game.

just last weekend i took my warrior from 38 to 42. basically 2 levels a day with playing just a few hours each day. If someone wanted to spend all their allotted gaming time to leveling you could be 60 in 2weeks easy. just a matter of stacking quests and knowing where to go. but this comes from going through it before. For someone just starting i would suggest going online and looking at some the guides, but they're not really needed. Just keep in mind that if you're in a zone and having a hard time move on to another place. I know that a lot of people tend to loose their way around the 40-50 mark because they have tried to plow their way through STV. This will burn you out not to mention take forever and by the time you get to Tanaris they can't see straight.

And no i dont imagine it'd be retroactive. plus there's no idea when this will happen. it was a point they brought up during Blizzcon when people were complaining about mid-lvl content.

You forgot 5-mans and heroics. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the old world instances are well designed, but Outland instances are just better for drops, better for XP, and better in terms of actually finding a group that will finish the instance before someone's grandmother catches on fire, or someone's connection starts dropping them. The last night I was on I spent 3 hours trying to get a group together for one of about 5 instances (SM Cath, RFD, Uldaman, ZF, or Mara). I got in 4 ZF groups that fell apart (2 because we needed a tank, 2 because we needed a healer), then finally got into an SM cath group right before going to bed. I just don't remember having this kind of trouble with Outland Instances. People actually want to run them, whereas that focus just isn't there in the old world content.

Agreed on the level 40-55ish range. Hard to get good groups. Aesildur has taken at least 5 PUGs into Sunken Temple and not a single one has completed yet. I had better luck with ZF, but no luck with Mara or BRD yet. You'd even think a Holy Priest would be a good class for that range as healers seem to be in demand, but I just don't think that there's enough players for many full groups.

With Tury, I've had a bit more luck, but SM seems to be popular enough. I'd like to do some Uldaman, but those groups have been harder to come by. Hoping getting into ZF range will help. I've had zero luck with Razorfen groups.

I'd really like to see some of these zones I missed in the first go round, too.

As for leveling... Ran is right. Keeping notes on quests helps a ton. We use Cartographer (Ace2) with NoteShare option and we put notes out for every quest we ran. It's a huge help as they all appear on the map (and mini-map when in range) so it's easy to group quests up.

I am starting to believe that the best way to level, though, will be to have my wife drag me with her 70 mage through some of the zones, maybe with a few other similar level guildies. I can level well enough on quests but it will still leave me wondering what's inside those places.

Although I already have almost everything noted, in, I will certainly give that a load and check it out. My notes are usually quick coordinate markers and little else. That sounds like it would add significantly to the information. I am a big fan of Clique, so I expect Clad's other stuff to be as good.

Thanks!

Looks like a great add-on. The higher the level the muddier quests become about what to do. Just one of the tricks they used pre-expansion to slow down the 60 level cap I guess...

I've been playing with a bunch of people on an RP/PvP server. They were all (or nearly all) 70 when I decided I wanted to play with them. I can't transfer any of my characters to the server. Catching up is taking a really long time. I've been playing one character exclusively for four months, and I'm still not 70. And once I reach 70, I'll still be way behind on gear.

I'd love to roll up an alliance character and play with the GWJ crew, but I'll basically never catch up with the current time-to-60.

I've enjoyed the expansion content a lot more than the original content, and it's only from 1-20 and 60-70, so there's that, too. Despite 40-60 being stuff I've never seen before, it was still substantially less enjoyable than 60-now. There are a lot of really cool post-60 5-man instances that I'd love to play, and the ones I have seen all make Wailing Caverns/Sunken Temple/etc. look downright bad.

unless you have a class specific quest inside ST i'd totally recommend skipping it. the time spent in there is much better spent elsewhere.

Well, Titanos has officially moved down to STV and is going to begin the grind in earnest. Next instance on my plate: Scarlet Monastery.

My leveling plan is simple and unexciting: Get to 58 as fast as possible. At 58, start Outlands but maybe go back to complete the Fordring quest line.

The Lyceum is so fun though.

55-58 is a breeze by making w/e plaugelands your home.