He then added, "I'm stupedifed, mystified, horrified!"

OMG! this is a glorious day! finally the last minority(white male) can finally play the RACE CARD!

I dont know about anyone else but it seems like there are only two types of people people can crap on and get away with it today, christians and white males. I happen to be both :\

After reading what was wrong and what happen i agree with the jury but they should have fired the guy not just slap him with 2k fine......

That's not usually the card I play when I want that -- but play whatever card wins the trick for you.

You meant he ones I make about my kielbasa? (It's thick and juicy! Stick it in your bun!)

Just out of curiosity why is it that white males get told that couldn't possibly understand what it is to be a minority, of how hard it is etc... but somehow those minorities can know what it is like to be a white male?

I dont see the relevance of the statistics. The manager's comments were racial in nature and the treatment of the employee in specific regard to their race was inappropriate. Regardless of the color of any employee's skin, I dont think anyone should be talked to that way about their race/ethnicity.

Besides, for that year of Census the definition of 'White' included the following groups - European Americans, Middle Eastern Americans (e.g. Arab Americans, Iranian Americans), Central Asian Americans, and Hispanic Americans who reported as White in the 2000 Census). It seems quite a broad definition to make sure certain ethnicities remain defined as a 'majority'. Honestly, I bet a large portion of those defined as 'white' from a census perspective, are at the sametime able to take advantage of minority perks and protections in business, education etc.

Anyways, I would hope that protections against racial discrimination is acknowledged as important from every angle.

My apologies if I misinterpreted your post Malor. That's why I read it several times. Looks like I still didn't get it.

I'm sorry. I meant that last line as a general comment on the topic, I didnt mean to imply that about your post specifically. I shouldve written a better post there, definitely a clearer one.

I feel this could actually be a big ruling. This in my view now could mean that civil rights are for everyone not just for non whites. I believe we all should be equal in the eyes of the law and would love the idea that we can stand on our merits, idealilstic it may sound. However, I have long believed that within the context of functioning social practices. Fear of unpsetting the afro community has led to the legal discrimination of whites. I see it all the time and afirmitive action is the most overt example. Yet I recognise in order to make the journey from the black oppressive culture that once was America. A few social injustices are going to happen in order to make the transition.

In the workplace, requisitioning specifically for non-white applicants or those times that a white male is denied consideration for a promotion or job based purely on his skin color and gender not meeting a particular metric, instead of looking at all applicants from their skills perspective, seems discriminatory to me. Programs that encourage non-white and non-male contractor bids, seems discriminatory also. I wonder how many white male small business owners out there ask their wife to be CEO so they are not selected against in the bidding process from the getgo purely based on their gender. How is that, at its root, not oppressive or discriminatory against a particular gender/ethnic combination. I just dont understand.

When I consider my two sons, age 4 and 6, race was a question forced on me right from the moment of delivery. They are half me(Caucasian) half mommy (Asian). To me, of course, they are just my boys. To step out of myself and look at them, you can see both of their heritages in their features and from year to year, as they grow, it has changed over time also.

Right from the very minute they were born, and I had to fillout their birth certificate application, I was forced to choose ONE race option. Caucasian or Asian for their race. There was no way to indicate two races, or half. To be honest, with all the exhaustion that followed each pregnancy and all the advice folks had previously given/offered/forced, I remember being terribly confused both times I had to answer that particular question. I think I checked off my first son as Asian and my second as Caucasian in the two years seperating them. I remember in both cases being wiped out and caught in a dilemma as I tried to fillout the form, and my answers may have done more with some gut impression at the moment for son's that were less than a day old. I remember thinking, beyond this form itself, what does this checkbox really mean... or does it mean nothing at all. I regret that I wasnt at least consistent. It's not a topic that comes up in 'birthing' classes, nor is there really anyone to consult with if you even realize to consider it ahead of time.

It leaves me with a profound question and concern, will one be selected against throughout life in the workplace or education for being checkmarked as Caucasian, because of that decision in the post labor room. If I am harshest with myself, I wonder if I actually failed the son in some way that I checkmarked as Caucasian within his first two days of life. I don't dwell on this at all, but inevitably when race becomes a topic I end up getting all reflective. Our boys will grow up to be who they want to be, and I hope their mom and I provide all the right guidance and support to enable them along that journey in life.

Still, when I stop to think about it, it really frustrates me. Any system that would automatically put one at advantage over the other is artificial and I would hope their future successes in life will be firmly rooted in their performance at school and the workplace and all those life lessons learned along the way.

I'll go out on a limb and say you're right because despite the incredibly prevalent anecdotal evidence shouted loudly from th rooftops i'm sure the above incidents are incredibly rare in the real life!

what sh*tty town do you live in? maybe i've just been incredibly lucky but this just doesn't apply to me, and I'm neither white, christian, or black.

I am sincerely glad that you have little experience to contribute. I have lived in several towns in several states in varying degrees of ethnic diversity. I've come to know, love and dislike people in just as much diveristy. The fact remains that exclusion for whatever reason, exists. To believe that people, whether they are white, black, christian, jewish and so forth won't be excluded by others. Would be like believing people will never lie to you.

I'm not sure. But I think I'm hearing from some people on this site. "If you're white, you can't be discriminated against".

There are always individual problems of all sorts, Cannibal. What matters is a trend - the argument above was that White Christian men were a freely persecutable minority; they are not. In most aspects of American society, White males are distinctly advantaged.

I've seen it in real life. Some people simply like to make others feel inferior. Not tormented, especially, just kept in their place. And when that person has some kind of power, even temporary or social, they will just regard it as their natural right.

It has nothing to do with an individual, usually, and everything to do with beliefs.

It does happen. I've seen it happen to others and it's happened to me, and let me tell you, it's a horrible feeling. I think the problem is that these days people seem to count an acknowledgement of race or religion in any way as persecution.