I thought we were talking about my Big Daddy for Little Sister.

Or are we talking about Adam Sandler and Stevie Ray Vaughn now?

Either way, I stayed out too late this weekend, and might be getting a 24-hour bug. It'd be a shame if I was sick tomorrow.

If the player's input is binary, harvest or rescue, how can the result be anything but binary?

Not when there's two endings, but more generally you're right. The results could be stratified into 2^n number of outcomes, but how awesome would the ones in the middle be?

"Congratulations, you killed all but one of the little girls, slacker."

"Congratulations, you only killed one of the little girls, butterfingers."

Suppose the Little Sisters had personalities and weren't clones of each other - if they represented different philosophical stances then the ones you killed or let live could define a personal philosophy at the end of the game.

Oooh, you wanna "white out" that last comment, Gorilla.

I was suggesting a new gameplay mechanic, make the "choice" more interactive than simply giving the player more Adam. This explains the problem. I'm not saying it's an existing mechanic.

It's completely yes/no so far. The Little Sisters are nothing more than an element of the plot, and a decision between a known and an unknown reward. They shouldn't have even mentioned the Little Sisters before release. The implied moral choice is so not important, but the act of making the choice is ridiculously creepy.

Stop expecting the game to recognize you made a moral choice and provide the appropriate ramifications. That's never been the point of right and wrong. It doesn't matter if the world notices. It matters if you do.

Though this doesn't really strike me as a DSGamer kind of game, it is extremely good in general so you might want to rent it.

EDIT: Holy carp the shotgun makes everything before it seem like a ping pong paddle!

Ok...I'm starting to really hate the various gun turrets in the game.. especially the ones that lob balls of explosive insta gib death at you with little or no warning.

Also the placement of said gun turrets sometimes is downright silly... there was one seemingly randomly placed under the docks.. wtf? why?

Just got finished with the Fisheries section. So far, it's a little lighter on story than I was expecting, but the world is fantastic, and the shooting is way, way better than I had expected. When you get some more versatile plasmids under your belt, the game really opens up in terms of gameplay variety. My favorite part so far as been killing The Surgeon with a cash-register to the head. Hypnotize Big Daddy also seems to be indispensable, though I'm a little curious as to why Ryan Industries would create such a thing. So far the scripted "scary" sequences have proven that I am a wuss. When the dude disappeared, then jumped out of the freezer closet... I nearly pooped!

Anyone tries harvesting a little sister? I haven't had the heart to do it, but I'm curious what happens, and how much Adam you get from it.

The best thing has to be the pacing. There just hasn't been a moment where I thought "OK, this is a good place to call it a night. I played for ~4 hours without even realizing it. It hurt to turn it off and take a break.

[edit] - Oh yeah, and what difficulty are you guys playing at? I'm playing on Hard, and it seems just right - any easier and I think it might lose some of its freakiness. Interestingly, the harder the game is, the more you're forced to think outside the box.

One of the last things I did before calling it a night was kill the first big daddy. I got my ass thoroughly kicked. That ground stomp is a pain. It can hit you even on the other side of a wall.

I came at him with the electroshock plasmid and the shotgun, but the electroshock seemed to have a very short effect. Firing at his back tanks may have been causing more damage. Not sure. Anyone else have any tips for fighting these guys without several trips to the vitra chamber (or whatever they're called)?

Heres a tip.. they arent very good at navigating around corners...especially if the corner has something sticking out from it...

I noticed that too, with the very first Big Daddy I killed. However, when I went back to the corpse, the description text showed 'Bouncer', so maybe it's a different type of Big Daddy, one that doesn't have an associated Little Sister.

If you're feeling all Rambo, you can run in, ignoring the splicers, and hack the turret first. The game is essentially paused while you're hacking, so it's not too hard.

you can also lure splicers from different areas back into a previously hacked turret's line of fire.

I believe Bouncer and Big Daddy are one and the same. I had the same issue when I killed the first Big Daddy, but I ran around the room, looking in every corner and when I got back around to the corpse, the Little Sister was cowering next to it.