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Interesting study out of the New England Journal of Medicine today: Apparently your close friends can influence the size of your waistline, even more so than your spouse or family members. If they're obese, there's a 57% chance that you'll be obese, too; in fact, the way obesity spreads between close friends has been described as "contagious". There's an article at Time about it (yes, it's all over the news sites, but this one has a fun video to go along with it that describes the network aspect of it).

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WTF? Most of my friends are skinny as hell. Even got a vegetarian in the group. What the hell happened to me?

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So basically friends snack together during the day... big deal we knew about this years ago.

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A couple of years ago on St. Patrick's Day my friends introduced me to Irish Car Bombs. I've since gained 5 pounds. Stupid alcohol.

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What happens if you have no friends? I NEED SOMEONE TO BLAME

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I find this somewhat off as well.

a better link might be that if you're fat, your wife/GF/husband/BF is probably fat. It makes sense, simply becaue when you're with someone, you both eat the same meals, chow the same snacks, etc.

about 6 years ago I put myself on a very strict diet and lost 70 lbs. When I was finally "skinny-ish" for the first time in my life, I got a lot of dates. When I started seriously dating my GF, the diet went out the window... too many meals out for dates, snacks, etc. We both gained a lot of weight since then.

If I had been with someone who was a health freak, I'd probably still be thinner. Peer pressure obviously has something to do with appearance... if everyone around you eats loads of crap, you're going to fit right in. If someone looked at you crosseyed for touching an extra piece of candy, you might think twice about indulging.

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What happens if you have no friends? I NEED SOMEONE TO BLAME

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Oddly enough, I used to be overweight along with my parents. As I started dropping weight, they did as well.

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A couple of years ago on St. Patrick's Day my friends introduced me to Irish Car Bombs. I've since gained 5 pounds. Stupid alcohol.

Try Sake Bombs. Same concept, but you use Sapporo and sake, obviously. You place the shotglass of sake on top of two chopsticks placed over the glass of beer, slam your fist on the table or bar to knock the sticks out of position to let the shotglass drop into the main glass. Then chug. Same kind of drunk, but low cal compared to the Irish version.

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Blah. I think they're putting the cart before the horse. Friends don't make each other fat, fat and fat-making interests make people friends.

I'd say skinny-ness is contageous. Hang around with a bunch of bean-poles, and you're more likely to notice those rolls when you look in the mirror.

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Also, fat people have fewer friends.

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Rat Boy wrote:
Oddly enough, I used to be overweight along with my parents. As I started dropping weight, they did as well.

lunabean wrote:
A couple of years ago on St. Patrick's Day my friends introduced me to Irish Car Bombs. I've since gained 5 pounds. Stupid alcohol.

Try Sake Bombs. Same concept, but you use Sapporo and sake, obviously. You place the shotglass of sake on top of two chopsticks placed over the glass of beer, slam your fist on the table or bar to knock the sticks out of position to let the shotglass drop into the main glass. Then chug. Same kind of drunk, but low cal compared to the Irish version.

But then there's no creamy-goodness in the middle of it...

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But then there's no creamy-goodness in the middle of it...

If you want creamy-goodness in the middle, stick with Oreos.

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This new information jives well with my new theory of fatness.

Here is what fat people don't want you to know: they are fat because THEY EAT SKINNY PEOPLE. That's the real reason why you always see a bunch of fat people hanging out together. They've eaten all of their skinny friends.

That's why lots of skinny people also happen to be on meth. It's a natural defense. People on meth taste bad. It's also why skinny kids seem to be able to run so fast. They need to.

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Here is what fat people don't want you to know: they are fat because THEY EAT SKINNY PEOPLE. That's the real reason why you always see a bunch of fat people hanging out together. They've eaten all of their skinny friends.

Mmmmmmm... Skinny people...

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you can relate this back to the whole beauty standard/myth thing, about how magazines and fashion industry constantly show images of super skinny women which is producing a whole culture of young girls wanting to be unrealistically skinny with eating disorders, etc.

this is really just the flip side, when you are around larger people you probably end up realizing that being bigger is not really a big deal so you let yourself go a little bit more.

i love how the undertone of the article further ostracize large people. "ooh, look out, if you hang out with **those** people you'll end up a fat slob yourself."

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When I was with my ex I gained 10lbs during around 7 months. When I met her she was almost rail thin but during those 7 months she quickly gained 40lbs. We were like fat catalysts to each other. It's not as romantic as it sounds.

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All the more reason to get together with your friends and eat Bacon Salt to sate the cravings.

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Morrolan wrote:
Blah. I think they're putting the cart before the horse. Friends don't make each other fat, fat and fat-making interests make people friends.

Actually, from what I read in the article, that's actually what these researchers are suggesting. The argument goes: People don't necessarily look to their spouses or their siblings for social behavioral cues, they look to their closest friends. You don't get to choose your family, and to a certain extent you can believe that you don't choose who you fall in love with (the whole opposites attract thing). But you do choose your close friends, and those bosom buddies usually mirror your thought patterns about life, and vice versa, more so than spouses or siblings. Thus, obese people are selecting best friends who are more likely to mimic their own thoughts about beauty and health, not to mention their eating tendencies and fitness preferences - thus those close friends are more likely to become obese themselves. (Notice in the video that the non-obese people tended to cluster together just as much, as long as they had no obese close friends.)

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As a counter-argument, i'd like to post that picture of that absolutely HUGE gal in the steelers shirt with a bunch of pals.

I'd like to, but i'm way too lazy to go looking right now.

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Dammit, I've been infected! Everyone, save yourselves! It's already too late for me...

This study is bulls**t to me. I was fat long before I had any friends. It's sad to say that, but it's true.

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I still say that most adults spend nearly all of their free-time with their spouse/significant other... relationships which are much more likely to involve shared lifestyle and bad eating habits. Again, maybe it's just anecdotal for me, but NONE of my friends are fat, and none of them really ever have been (and I've pretty much been "the fat guy" my entire life).

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Hmm. I wonder if you can catch thin too.

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Paleocon wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if you can catch thin too.

Not a chance in hell. That would mean I have something to live for, and God just wouldn't allow that to happen.

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MudderFudder77 wrote:
Not a chance in hell. That would mean I have something to live for, and God just wouldn't allow that to happen.

also, please don't eat me

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MudderFudder77 wrote:
Not a chance in hell. That would mean I have something to live for, and God just wouldn't allow that to happen.

also, please don't eat me

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Paleocon wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if you can catch thin too.

actually that was my point in my previous post. you can certainly 'catch thin.' but not in a 'oops, i accidentally lost 10 lbs' sense. but if you look at the whole generation of girls who idolize the unhealthy model-skinny look and developed all sorts of eating disorders. all that happened because of they are surrounded by images of super thin people.

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Morrolan wrote:
Blah. I think they're putting the cart before the horse. Friends don't make each other fat, fat and fat-making interests make people friends.

Actually, from what I read in the article, that's actually what these researchers are suggesting. The argument goes: People don't necessarily look to their spouses or their siblings for social behavioral cues, they look to their closest friends. You don't get to choose your family, and to a certain extent you can believe that you don't choose who you fall in love with (the whole opposites attract thing). But you do choose your close friends, and those bosom buddies usually mirror your thought patterns about life, and vice versa, more so than spouses or siblings. Thus, obese people are selecting best friends who are more likely to mimic their own thoughts about beauty and health, not to mention their eating tendencies and fitness preferences - thus those close friends are more likely to become obese themselves. (Notice in the video that the non-obese people tended to cluster together just as much, as long as they had no obese close friends.)

I was going to post something along these lines, but Kat has done a much better job summing it up than I could.

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Morrolan wrote:
Blah. I think they're putting the cart before the horse. Friends don't make each other fat, fat and fat-making interests make people friends.

I'd say skinny-ness is contageous. Hang around with a bunch of bean-poles, and you're more likely to notice those rolls when you look in the mirror.

I think if you're the minority in your group of friends, you will probably naturally emulate them no matter what the vice or activity is...

Then again, I got fat the old-fashioned way... I got married.

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Is it possible to be an American and not have fat friends? I'm wondering where they found the control group of thin people without any close friends who were fat.

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Then again, I got fat the old-fashioned way... I got married.

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Awesome, another study that gives people an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for their own decisions. "It's not my fault, you all were a bad influence!" I'm overweight because I eat too much junk, not because my friends do.

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