Students invent powdered booze for selling to minors

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Dutch students have invented an alcohol in powder form which they feel can be legally sold to minors. Human innovation finds way to circumvent current tax and minimum age requirements for alcohol.

A few choice quotes from the CNN article, sourced below:

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"We are aiming for the youth market

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"Because the alcohol is not in liquid form, we can sell it to people below 16(the legal age in the Netherlands for drinking alcohol and smoking)

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(companies)...interested in making the product commercially could avoid taxes because the alcohol was in powder form. A number of companies are interested...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/06/powdered.booze.reut/index.html

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Saaaweeet!

I want some of this so I can spike my cheap low-alcohol content beer!

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I'm sorry, i'm not sure what the law in the netherlands is but surely the sale of alcohol (liquid or not) to people under the age limit is illegal? Why would they stipulate what form it was in? This is like saying roll-up's, ie. buying the tobacco and paper is legal but the fully pre-formed cigarrettes is not...

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Duoae wrote:
I'm sorry, i'm not sure what the law in the netherlands is but surely the sale of alcohol (liquid or not) to people under the age limit is illegal? Why would they stipulate what form it was in? This is like saying roll-up's, ie. buying the tobacco and paper is legal but the fully pre-formed cigarrettes is not...

I think the problem here is that the form has fundamentally changed. I think a better analogy for you Duoae would be that "Cigarettes are age limit restricted, so nicotine chewing gum should also be restricted." We do have snuff, chewing tobacco, and other products that already are covered under (at least US law). The problem here is that legislation lags far behind 'technological' advances. Do you consider this an illegal drug like cocaine or meth? Well, no, then you would be saying that alcohol is on par with that. I'm sure they'll get around to legislation, it just takes time.

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I agree with Blacksheep, there probably is a technicality in the tax and legal system which defines alcohol as a liquid. I'm sure the government would quickly amend the laws not to protect minors so much as to ensure taxes continued to be collected.

I remember in Japan that beer was defined legally by its ingredients and brewing process. A company introduced something that used different ingredients, but resulted in a product that tasted like beer with the same alcohol content. It was initially cheaper at stores because it fell outside of tax definition of beer and the laws needed to catch up.

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CNN wrote:
The legal age for drinking alcohol and smoking is 16 in the Netherlands.

Holy Moley! If I'd had access to the Wild Turkey when I was 16 years old I'd be a dead man right now. D-E-D, that spells dead.

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Holy sh*t, that is awesome!!! ....Well until I see my first "smacked out" alcoholic anyway...umm, I wonder if you can cook it with water and baking soda to make a rock? Gadzooks man! Career change $$$$!!! Black Caeser status here I come!!!

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The laws concerning alcohol are convoluted, especially in Europe (see Wikipedia for some examples.)

If the laws are specifically written to stop underage drinking, the powdered booze will work as a loophole...until the laws are re-written.

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Well... at least this should give me some interesting DAWN cases to read... Won't take long before these idiots start snorting it with their cocaine/heroin.

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PurEvil wrote:
Well... at least this should give me some interesting DAWN cases to read... Won't take long before these idiots start snorting it with their cocaine/heroin.

Snorting is such a waste, I have something better...Wanna buy a rock?? In fact here lil' buddy, the first one's free...Enjoy!

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If the laws specify alcoholic beverages, then this would be a loophole. However, their markets will quickly dry up once this story hits the media hysteria machine and legislatures roll out some ham-fisted bill to fix the loophole while also giving themselves raises and setting kittens on fire.

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BlackSheep wrote:
I want some of this so I can spike my cheap low-alcohol content beer!

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Top it up with water and you have a bubbly, lime-colored and -flavored drink with just 3 percent alcohol content.

At 3% I don't think it will help much.

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CannibalCrowley wrote:
BlackSheep wrote:
I want some of this so I can spike my cheap low-alcohol content beer!

article wrote:
Top it up with water and you have a bubbly, lime-colored and -flavored drink with just 3 percent alcohol content.

At 3% I don't think it will help much.

Well, it might make Coors more palatable.

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CannibalCrowley wrote:

At 3% I don't think it will help much.

Stronger than what I can buy in a grocery store here.

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Troll wrote:
CannibalCrowley wrote:
BlackSheep wrote:
I want some of this so I can spike my cheap low-alcohol content beer!

article wrote:
Top it up with water and you have a bubbly, lime-colored and -flavored drink with just 3 percent alcohol content.

At 3% I don't think it will help much.

Well, it might make Coors more palatable.

3% is 3%. Is this by volume? Isn't 12% alcoh. by volume the general average for beer? 3% would be a substantial increase on this. Sure, go pour it in your grain alcohol and its like throwing money at Bill Gates, but drop that doozy in your beer and it makes you need less beer! I bet this can be sold as a caloric dietary aid for those wanting to get sloppy without getting their bellies sloppy.

So many applications for this. Marinade and dry rub for meat, sleep-inducer alternative to nyquil, drink additive. Just brilliant. I need to get to my basement and begin work with my beginner's chemistry set and work all this out and make my own dried beer.

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BlackSheep wrote:

I think the problem here is that the form has fundamentally changed. I think a better analogy for you Duoae would be that "Cigarettes are age limit restricted, so nicotine chewing gum should also be restricted." We do have snuff, chewing tobacco, and other products that already are covered under (at least US law). The problem here is that legislation lags far behind 'technological' advances. Do you consider this an illegal drug like cocaine or meth? Well, no, then you would be saying that alcohol is on par with that. I'm sure they'll get around to legislation, it just takes time.

I just find these things funny and a bit ridiculous. As a chemist alcohol is an alkane chain with an OH group on the end... To me, legislating that it is illegal to sell alcohol to people under a certain age doesn't make a difference to what form it comes in.... If they'd taken that into account when they wrote it 50 years ago or so then there would be no problem with the legislation (assuming there is one in England). This is just one of those things that is obvious to the people who's field of expertise (i don't like applying that to myself) but gets completely mangled and messed up by politicians...

I think nicotine gum is restrited... though tbh i haven't checked.

There is a problem in the Uk with under-age drinking as it is, considering that it is illegal to sell to minors... We don't need a legal alcoholic drug to make things worse.

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You have some strong beer! 12%?!!

Most beers here are around 4-5% vol. with special "lite" beers being around 3%. Wine is usually around 12%.

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ChronicNecrosis wrote:
PurEvil wrote:
Well... at least this should give me some interesting DAWN cases to read... Won't take long before these idiots start snorting it with their cocaine/heroin.

Snorting is such a waste, I have something better...Wanna buy a rock?? In fact here lil' buddy, the first one's free...Enjoy!

(* Just practicing)

I'm not sure it's a great idea to light up powdered alcohol. I'm just sayin'.

Staats wrote:
CannibalCrowley wrote:

At 3% I don't think it will help much.

Stronger than what I can buy in a grocery store here.

Minnesota doesn't sell real beer? I knew there was something wrong with that state.

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wordsmythe wrote:

Minnesota doesn't sell real beer? I knew there was something wrong with that state.

Only in grocery stores... you have to cross the street to the liquor store to get anything good. I have no idea why.

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Ye put a bit in yer watarrrr. Makes it easiarrr on the humarrrrs.

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Really, is there any doubt everyone's going to snort this?

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Does snorting something have some biological benefit over just eating it?

Honestly, I dont know. I'm an innocent.

I never understood why people snort things, unless they are an anteater or an elephant after peanuts.. in which case.. they are eating.

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Irongut wrote:
Does snorting something have some biological benefit over just eating it?

Honestly, I dont know. I'm an innocent.

I never understood why people snort things, unless they are an anteater or an elephant after peanuts.. in which case.. they are eating.

It works into the bloodstream faster, without dilution in the stomache and digestive tract.

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Speaking of different ways to get $#it-faced: in Russia, long-distance truckers are giving themselves vodka enemas so as to get inhebriated without failing to pass a breathalyzer test if stopped by the police. Alcohol absorbs right into the bloodstream through the lower intestines walls, and it takes much less of it to achieve the woozy BAC levels than when consumed orally.

Just felt like mentioning it.

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Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Speaking of different ways to get $#it-faced: in Russia, long-distance truckers are giving themselves vodka enemas

Wow, they give sh*tfaced new meaning.

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Duoae wrote:

You have some strong beer! 12%?!!

Most beers here are around 4-5% vol. with special "lite" beers being around 3%. Wine is usually around 12%.

I was just guessing about this. I don't actively (or soberly) read the sides of by beer cans for alcohol content. This only makes the whole 3% even more impressive, like making a beer almost double its alcohol content.

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Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Speaking of different ways to get $#it-faced: in Russia, long-distance truckers are giving themselves vodka enemas so as to get inhebriated without failing to pass a breathalyzer test if stopped by the police. Alcohol absorbs right into the bloodstream through the lower intestines walls, and it takes much less of it to achieve the woozy BAC levels than when consumed orally.

Just felt like mentioning it.

Man, I bet that's a rip-roaring good time for everyone involved.

"Sir, bend over, I need to administer a breathalyzer."

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BlackSheep wrote:
"Sir, bend over, I need to administer a breathalyzer."

Hmm, this might complicate the testing procedure. which might go something like this....

Officer: "Ok sir, very good, now please fart in the tube." (squeak of flatuation) "Sir, that wasn't good enough, we'll need you to fart again."

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Troll wrote:
Irongut wrote:
Does snorting something have some biological benefit over just eating it?

Honestly, I dont know. I'm an innocent.

I never understood why people snort things, unless they are an anteater or an elephant after peanuts.. in which case.. they are eating.

It works into the bloodstream faster, without dilution in the stomache and digestive tract.

Snorting is barely better then digestion and is basically for the casual (weekend) user; most truly smacked out addicts only snort in the beginning then move on to bigger and better things (Church Bells!!!)...Nothing is a faster way than intravenously...I would bet money that not only will it be snorted but also injected...

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Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Speaking of different ways to get $#it-faced: in Russia, long-distance truckers are giving themselves vodka enemas so as to get inhebriated without failing to pass a breathalyzer test if stopped by the police. Alcohol absorbs right into the bloodstream through the lower intestines walls, and it takes much less of it to achieve the woozy BAC levels than when consumed orally.

Just felt like mentioning it.

I'm more surprised that Russian police care about DUIs.....

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ChronicNecrosis wrote:
Troll wrote:
Irongut wrote:
Does snorting something have some biological benefit over just eating it?

Honestly, I dont know. I'm an innocent.

I never understood why people snort things, unless they are an anteater or an elephant after peanuts.. in which case.. they are eating.

It works into the bloodstream faster, without dilution in the stomache and digestive tract.

Snorting is barely better then digestion and is basically for the casual (weekend) user; most truly smacked out addicts only snort in the beginning then move on to bigger and better things (Church Bells!!!)...Nothing is a faster way than intravenously...I would bet money that not only will it be snorted but also injected...

While I've managed 38 years with only porn and booze as my vices, sadly, ChronicNecrosis is correct. The user that wants a better chance of going undetected, though, won't leave track marks.

And let's just hope that shooting Jagermeister doesn't become the thing to do.

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Apparently they have machines that vaporize the booze so you can inhale it and get cocked. Connecticut outlawed them last October, and I never even knew they existed.

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