Teaching yourself to play guitar?
So, I've been sitting around lately looking for a new hobby. Something that can take up little to obscene chunks of time, will be something I can continue doing for years, and will provide some slight fulfillment down the line. While mentally scratching potential activities off of the list, I paused on "Learning to play guitar".
Before rushing out and spending an obscene amount of money on a shiny guitar, amp, and all of those pedals and knob looking doohickeys, I figured I'd toss a thread up here to see if anyone had any thoughts on it. That way I could mull it over for a few days and consider the potential cost and whether I can even bank on the possibility of self teaching something as seemingly complex as learning to read music/play guitar.
So dear readers and guitarists, here are the questions I have for you!
At the ripe age of 26, with absolutely no musical training what so ever, is it even possible to teach yourself guitar? If so, what media would be most accessible (and cheapest) to learn with?
If it is possible, what would be the smart way to start this hobby equipment wise? I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money just to get started.
Thanks for any help!
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Cheapest way is to buy a cheapo ($100?) acoustic. If you really want electric, though, there are these "starter packages" they sell at Guitar Center and the like for $200 or so - I would recommend the Ibanez one. Ibanez makes the best affordable guitars in the world (this is coming from a Gibson fan).
As far as learning, here's what I did: got a friend to show me a thing or two, got some chord diagrams and some tablature, learned *parts* of a couple songs, and then just ignored anything else and started writing my own stuff.
...13 years later, I'm still total crap at guitar. So probably take lessons and learn entire songs by artists you enjoy.
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Get a cheap guitar, like pawn shop, Wal-Mart, Target starter guitar type. If you hate it, you'll be out $75-125. If you like playing guitar, you can always go and get something better later on. You'll also learn what guitar body types will sound like and if you want a more Stratocaster sound, solid body, metal, etc... It gives you time to explore and decide what guitar will become your "baby." An acoustic guitar represents the cheapest investment as you don't need an amp, but some of the starter kits come with small practice amps, so it's not that big of a deal. It will be later on, if you decide to stick with it. Then your amp will probably cost more than the starter kit, and possibly the guitar you play on it.
Figure out what you'd like to learn to play. I always had a much easier time learning songs I wanted to play than learning some of the basics. I should note that I can't read music and I've never had any music theory classes. This didn't stop me from playing guitar, but it does hinder me in writing my own stuff. If I spent a little more time and effort I could pick it up, but I'm 32 and that's probably not going to happen until retirement.
Guitar tablature is how you'll probably want to go at first. You'll have a visual representation of the 6 strings and what fret needs to be pressed. A Google search with give you lots of sites for guitar tab. A lot of them are user submitted, and some are really off, but some a really, really good. I've found that you sometimes have to read 2 or 3 and steal parts from each in order to get the song "right," at least to my ears.
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Certainly!
You can find a nice acoustic used for a couple of hundred bucks, and there are tons of resources on the web. I would recommend some lessons, though; a teacher can rapidly accelerate your learning, as long as you practice. I'm pretty much self taught, but i've spent time with better guitarists and you learn a ton from those with experience, stuff you can't easily figure out from books.
I wouldn't drop a ton on the instrument, but don't cheap out either. $200-300 is a nice sweet spot. You might also check around, lots of music stores will rent instruments, a good way to see if you like it.
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I'd recommend starting with a decent-sounding, inexpensive acoustic. If you decide you don't like it, you're not in for an arm and a leg.
The best way to learn guitar is to play with other people. Learn some chords and go play with people. To reiterate, go play with living, breathing, people and have fun.
Do not stress. Enjoy it.
Did I mention playing with other people? Ask around where you work/play. Chances are good you know some people! These people probably played instruments at some point. Some still do, and some are just waiting for someone to play with.
(sorry for going off the deep end a little, but imo, the social aspects are more fun than sitting around by yourself forcing yourself to learn barre chords.)
Have fun!
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The first songs I learned were on a nylon string acoustic that was my mother's. The guitar was made in 1967 and I started playing in 1989. It probably had the same set of strings on it for 20 years. The first band I learned to play, Metallica. A whole ton of stuff from Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill 'Em All and later, the "Black" album. I still play Fade to Black when I get bored and pick up the acoustic.
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The social aspect is absolutely one of the big draws to learning to play. I think it'll be an absolute blast to sit around with buddies and just play a bit. I just have to get to the point that I have some idea of what I'd be doing first. A big problem I have is that after moving up to NH with the SO, I've lost the ability to just play with friends, all of whom are "back home" in CT. I have no doubts that I'll find a few people up here that play, but as of now I'll be doing this strictly solo.
There's a pawn shop a few minutes down the road that has a huge amount of guitars, ranging anywhere from about $50 up to $700ish. I looked mainly at the electrics last time I went (they're purdy), but next time I stop in I'll pay attention to the acoustics - especially if it'll result in cheaper startup costs.
I have no real clue what I want to play. I love listening to friends just jamming. Lot of blues infused classic rock kinda stuff. I'm also a huge fan of all types of rock, besides just doing the bluesy thing, I can absolutely see myself focusing on learning (or trying to, at least) classic rock and possibly some 90's grunge. I have absolutely no aspirations of ever playing in a band, I really just want to have a hobby that I can enjoy with friends and that I can keep expanding on and learning over the course of many years.
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Sounds perfect then. You're never too old to learn.
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On the "hippies" motif, you might want to go to a campground some evening and wander around until you smell marijuana.
Seriously, if you're not serious about being "good," you can be banging out a three-chord tune in five minutes. Seriously. No, seriously. (Um, what're those ones where you form a bar across the neck with your index finger? Are those what "barre" chords are? Anyways, that's what I mean.)
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Second this. A super cheap crap Wal-Mart guitar will be much more difficult to play than a $300 entry level Ibanez, Yamaha, Epiphone, whatever.
Acoustic is good to start with for the reasons mentioned, plus those big old strings are a great way to build finger strength and callouses, but if you're interested mostly in electric guitar styles there's also nothing wrong with starting out there. $600-700 will get you into a good quality entry level electric and a decent practice amp.
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One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned yet - take a good guitarist with you guitar shopping; you won't know anything at all about buying a guitar, and they will. I cannot stress this enough. It's kind of like how when you find out that someone you know just spent a bunch of money on a terrible computer, and you wish they had talked to you first.
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Hippie! Me? Oh noes. I've just been down this road a few times, and wanted to share what keeps me doing it.
It's awful fun, and omg am I not good at it.
But people are awfully forgiving, and it's one of the best things I've ever done for myself.
Maybe he should start by renting. I don't want to leap on your suggestions as the musical Anti-Podunk, but it's not certain burritos will like playing, or he might suffer from stubby-finger syndrome, or... y'know?
And I finally figured what you meant by a Wal-Mart guitar being difficult to play: it's difficult to play like Podunk. Like, with the notes and whatnot. Whereas "Wild Thing" sounds great on any old POS.
EDIT: because cool kids like me don't really read other people's posts before posting.
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Yeah, I'm mostly just talking about the cut-rate hardware and awful action that you're likely to find on a super cheap guitar, the things that actually make it more physically difficult to fret notes and negotiate the neck. I've heard some people extol the virtues of starting out on a garbage instrument because then you really appreciate your first good one, but the risk there is that you may become so frustrated with your limitations as a beginning player + the limitations of the instrument that you never make it to the first good one.
I dunno. It can work either way, for sure.
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I definitely found that learning on a nylon acoustic made going to electric and steel string acoustic easier. Also, learning to play guitar made picking up the bass easier, but my friends who only played bass had a difficult time going to guitar.
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I'd love to do that, but I don't know anyone up here that's a serious player. I have a bunch of guys I go camping and the such with, and a few of them play around, but nobody that I'd feel confident taking advice from on a $200+ purchase. To make this point a little more obnoxious, it also leaves me with nobody that can really give me a whole lot of help. I'm sure as I start playing I'll meet people that play, but that's probably a good couple of weeks or months off yet.
Podunk, you're scary.
So, what would be a good way to actually go about starting to learn? Should I pick up a few "learn to play!" books? Use video? Strictly tabs?
I know that lessons would be the fastest and smartest way, but as I've said, I'm trying to get into this hobby on the cheap side - at least until I know that I want to stick with it, and paying for lessons would push me well out of my $300-400ish (for guitar + any other accessories I need.. picks, tuner, strings, book(s), etc) comfort level.
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I agree with Hemi - I had an acoustic that had terribly difficult action, but it made playing electric extremely easy. Still and all, I probably would have had more fun going directly to electric. There's a difference between what produces the best results, and what's fun enough along the way for you to stick with it long enough to actually get results - I think that's Podunk's point about quality.
I still stand by getting one of those Ibanez starter packages. You're gonna replace any first guitar that you get anyway, if you stick with it long enough.
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Value packages.
There's one there for $99. Like I said, any first gear is basically disposable anyway.
I know nothing of lessons, but there are so many starving musicians out there, I've gotta believe you can find lessons that won't break the bank. But someone else should answer that question, since I suck.
Maybe listen to me about budget gear and listen to Podunk on the how-to.
This one would be my recommendation - I own an Ibanez GAX and it's a perfectly solid guitar, and you'll need an electric tuner, which the $99 Epiphone package doesn't have. The GAX you could probably play for years, whereas the amp you'll want to replace as soon as you know you're going to stick with it.
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You can always learn to play guitar, I'm actually teaching a buddy of mine some stuff on guitar and he's in his 30s. He never picked one up and already can play a few songs and is getting chord transitions down.
I really believe in investing a bit in a decent instrument and getting a decent sound so you don't get bored out of your mind playing.
I found this on sam ash which is a decent starting rig:
http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=1&TempID=2&Department...
you might want to get a decent distortion pedal, (I recommend the Boss MT2 which makes even the worst amp sound halfway decent).
so all in all maybe 300 or so bucks, but you get something you'll not get sick of after a few days.
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I've got the 7 string version of this guitar, and I like it a lot.

It's a bit heavy in the neck and light in the body, though. Makes it feel more like a bass. Could be that I'm used to my Les Paul Studio, and that thing has a tank of a body.
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I'll add this as well.
For starting books etc. . . I say buy a couple of Guitar magazines, like Guitar For the Practicing Musician or something, get something with a couple songs you want to learn and start hammering away at it.
Also, there are some good beginners books on the blues and jazz.
I also highly recommend a beginners book on the blues as a foundation for rock. Getting into jazz starting off is a good way to get frustrated at all the theory etc. A good book on the blues with some pentatonics and maybe a few modal variations is your best bet.
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I would recommend starting with a cheap acoutsic. You have much less to worry about as far as equipment so your overall cost will be much lower. I helped a buddy pick out a cheap acoustic a while back and the Takamine Jasmine is pretty decent
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jasmine-by-Takamine-S35-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=516451
The acoustic will let you sit down and play anywhere which can be a big plus. Also, if you decide to stick with it, you can then take what you have learned and do some more research on a great electric guitar, amp, and pedals and what not. Deciding what sound you want to go with on electric is going to take research into all three while just picking up any acoustic will give you pretty much the same sound.
As far as learning to play, Tabs are your friends, but in addition to that I would learn open chord fingering as well, especially if you pick up an acoustic. Start with G, C, and D and you will be able to play lots of songs. Also, if you are learning alot of acoustic, folk type stuff, make sure you pick up a Capo. I would recommend learning a bunch of popular songs first too. That way, you may not have anyone to play with, but you can always get a bunch of people to sing along. Great for campfires, back porches, or really anywhere beer is involved
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That's a pretty decent deal. I love that it comes with everything I'll need included - that's a huge draw, since I'd literally be going into this clueless. I'm probably going to look around here at local music shops and pawn shops before I pull the trigger. Chances are, unless I hear awful awful things about it, that Ibanez kit will be what I go with.
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One other note about why not to spend too much money - it'll most likely be a while before you even know what you like, and this applies to guitars, amps, pedals...pretty much everything.
If you make some friends that you can play with, and they're cool with it, try playing on their gear and seeing what you like. I've only played a telecaster once, for a couple minutes, but I loved it. Why I've never bought one I really don't know.
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If you're going Ibanez, I'd reccomend the RG series. The super-thin necks are designed for shredding, but in reality they make all playing easier for beginners. Those necks are the anti-acoustic, in that acoustics have big ol' fat necks, usually.
I'd reccomend either to Ibanez or the Squier starter kit. It comes with the guitar, strings, cord and a little starter amp, for a decent price. If you decide to spend a little more and go the RG route, don't be frightened by people saying that the Floyd Rose bridges are hard to tune - these people are wussies, and deserve only your ridicule!
Seriously, do it two or three times, and you'll have it down pat.
I'll also reiterate the recommendations of Metallica. They have great stuff for all skill levels, and you can find tablature for most of them online. Plus, those big powerful riffs are a great way to impress your guitar-ignorant friends with very little time put in.
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Teaching yourself is the only way to go, IMO. I'm not so big on reading music, I just pick a song I like that seems within my current skill level, find tabs, and practice it until I can play it semi-decently. For the technical side of things, there's always books on musical theory. I practice more when there's nobody telling me to practice, really.
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Wholenote.com is a great site. There's lots of beginners lessons there and I used those to get started. Its all free. There's lessons on all the beginner stuff like stringing, tuning, chords, reading tabs and virtually every lesson is categorized so that you can find the stuff you're looking for; for example easy Blues lessons.
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I've said on many an occasion that this is the perfect time to start learning to play the guitar. The amount of online resources and access to reasonably priced equipment is astounding.
If I might plug the GuitarPort again, I can't hesitate to recommend it if you do wind up with an electric.
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Well, first of all, get yourself a Les Paul that costs no less than 1,500 dollars, because it's really the only way you can truly rock.
Then select a pick that feels comfortable in your hand, and play some Paganini, I'd recommend the 5th caprice because that's what I started with and it's a nice, slow tempo. You can see it here. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pYauTCAbvh8
This dude plays it sort of ok, I personally play it better but it's all I could find on Youtube.
After you get good with that, you can try learning some chords or some music theory, I don't know. The truth is that you're too old, you should have started when you were in the womb.
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Wow. I'm absolutely amazed at the wisdom expressed in this post. Words truly cannot describe.
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That looks pretty interesting, actually, and it's not that awful expensive. I'll probably look into that after I get set up.
Oh, and thanks Mex. Helpful as always
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