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Idaho Good Samaritans Who Pulled Victim to Shore Get $85 Tickets

Link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269594,00.html

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"The body was right there," said the 58-year-old Twin Falls resident. "A girl deputy was trying to console everybody. Then a sergeant walked up. He said, 'I see you don't have any life jackets so I am going to give you a citation.' It seemed a little cold."

What a nut-job! I Googled the town of TWIN FALLS, Idaho and found the sheriff office's contact info and wrote Sheriff Wayne Tousley a message telling him that I thought the tickets were uncalled for. Don't know if it will help, but it pissed me off.

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I hate cops.

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I don't hate cops. I hate stupid people.

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I don't think it's reasonable (or logical) to hate all cops.

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Don't let warpig derail this thread. The fact remains that the sheriff was cold and inhuman. (A zombie?!?!?)

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That is un-frakking-believable. This dude needs to be fired and never employed in any authoritative capacity, ever.

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Marsman wrote:
Don't let warpig derail this thread. The fact remains that the sheriff was cold and inhuman. (A zombie?!?!?)

Right, I don't want to derail it.

I have to wonder if there wasn't something else going on. Where the good deed doers rude to him? Did they wait a long time to alert authorities? Did the sargent believe they had been drinking, but couldn't prove it?

The reason I ask is I hate cops because they are control freaks. What he did was cold not controlling. And it makes me wonder if he wasn't trying to get control of some other situation that we don't know about.

I hate cops except for the ones that let me off with a warning (except for one who did let me off with a warning, but gave me a hard time) and my 4 friends who are cops.

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Anyone else feel a firing coming on? ninja

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Anyone else feel a firing coming on? ninja

Why? You've done nothing wrong.

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I don't think he needs to be fired. Just minor discipline. Nothing more than "we need to talk". If he continues to do stupid stuff then fire him.

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I'm not defending the sergeant, but to quote Yahoo! news,

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"Maybe you get kind of cold in that job," Bohrn said. "I think there is a time and a place. They should use common sense. Maybe his superiors could tell him, 'Next time, wait until they get to the dock and the girls aren't crying.'"

The emphasis is mine.

If these are indeed girls (read that as young girls), the sergeant could have thought it his duty to protect them.

Regardless, I think we all agree, his sense of timing was f***ed up.

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Fedaykin98 wrote:
Anyone else feel a firing coming on? ninja

No. It's criminally stupid not to have lifejackets aboard when you go boating, particularly when the water is cold. If I'd been the cop I would have told them, "Great job- but I don't want to be pulling your lifeless body out of the river someday, so here's a ticket so you remember to bring one next time."

If he was being sadistic, that's one thing. If he's trying to prevent another tragedy- and these people are idiots if they're canoeing in spring without lifejackets on- that's different.

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Y'all must think I'm spectacularly repetitive. I guess my attempt at humor fell flat. Oh well...

Anyway, I still think dude should be fired and employed as the mop guy at McDonalds. But never, ever, promoted to fries.

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Just a hunch, but I don't think Fed was referring to the sargeant.

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Fedaykin98 wrote:
Y'all must think I'm spectacularly repetitive. I guess my attempt at humor fell flat. Oh well...

Anyway, I still think dude should be fired and employed as the mop guy at McDonalds. But never, ever, promoted to fries.

I got it. I was kinda hoping nobody else would. I still hate cops. Funkenpants, if you are a cop I hate you too .

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Yeah, I'm just being a punk.

Speaking of cops, where is Swampy when you need him? I'm dying to hear his thoughts on this thread, on a number of levels.

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I'm kind of with Funkenpants here. If there were children in the canoes without life vests, those guys deserve the tickets plus a nice hard smack upside the head.

Also, I'm warming up to this warpig guy. He's spunky.

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I wasn't under the impression it was children, but female humans. If you read the story, it describes them as the guy's "companions" and "friends".

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Funkenpants wrote:
If he was being sadistic, that's one thing. If he's trying to prevent another tragedy- and these people are idiots if they're canoeing in spring without lifejackets on- that's different.

Who canoes while wearing a life jacket? I always wear one water skiing, wake boarding, jet skiing, and such; but that's because it's somewhat likely to come in handy. But leisurely paddling down a river, a life jacket might come in handy as a seat cushion and that's about it.

Does Idaho require life jackets or would any flotation device work because another news outlet said that they did have floating cushions?

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When I went canoeing I wore a life jacket.

But I didn't wear gloves that time I killed a baboon. Ape kills ape - mano a mano.

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CannibalCrowley wrote:
Funkenpants wrote:
If he was being sadistic, that's one thing. If he's trying to prevent another tragedy- and these people are idiots if they're canoeing in spring without lifejackets on- that's different.

Who canoes while wearing a life jacket? I always wear one water skiing, wake boarding, jet skiing, and such; but that's because it's somewhat likely to come in handy. But leisurely paddling down a river, a life jacket might come in handy as a seat cushion and that's about it.

Does Idaho require life jackets or would any flotation device work because another news outlet said that they did have floating cushions?

Federal law says that you have to have a Type I, II, III, or IV PFD (wearable) for each person in a boat. You have to have one Type IV if the boat is 16+ ft., but those are the boat cushion/rings that don't count as a wearable life preserver. The state may dicate even more strict laws for children. Personally, I find it silly to not wear a comfortable life preserver if kayaking/canoeing, even though I'm a competent swimmer.

It does seem pretty cold of the deputy to write a ticket.

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CannibalCrowley wrote:
But leisurely paddling down a river, a life jacket might come in handy as a seat cushion and that's about it.

They didn't have them aboard to use even as a seat cushion. Read the story. Whether people should wear them or not at any given time depends on the personality of the boater, the weather conditions, the water temperature, and other factors.

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1Dgaf wrote:
When I went canoeing I wore a life jacket.

But I didn't wear gloves that time I killed a baboon. Ape kills ape - mano a mano.

I just had this image of you throttling a baboon wearing a life preserver. Weird.

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The bridge in question:

Yeah, that'll do it.

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Funkenpants wrote:
They didn't have them aboard to use even as a seat cushion. Read the story.

other article wrote:
Bohrn thinks he may have a legal case. Inflatable cushions carried in the canoe should count for something, he said.

http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/local_state/111240.t...

Funkenpants wrote:
Whether people should wear them or not at any given time depends on the personality of the boater, the weather conditions, the water temperature, and other factors.

That kind of goes against:

Funkenpants wrote:
these people are idiots if they're canoeing in spring without lifejackets on

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CannibalCrowley wrote:
That kind of goes against:

Not really. One covers the general case, the other covers the specific case in the article. If the water is cold and the river is deep and wide, it's idiotic not to wear a life jacket. If life jackets are comfortable and the consequences of falling in potentially dire, the calculation seems pretty clear to me.

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1Dgaf wrote:

But I didn't wear gloves that time I killed a baboon. Ape kills ape - mano a mano.

Reminds me of once when I killed a gopher with a stick. I'll tell you the story some time.

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Yeah I don't think he was wrong to issue the citations but it definitely could have waited until some of the emotion from the event had time to die down.

I'm reminded of the prick that gave me a speeding ticket for 69 in a 65 zone on the interstate. I was in the right lane about 30 seconds from my exit and cars in all three other lanes blowing by at 75 and 80 miles an hour. I really wanted to take that one to court, but didn't think I'd be able to get off work

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SwampYankee wrote:
Reminds me of once when I killed a gopher with a stick. I'll tell you the story some time.

Change "gopher" to "suspect" and stick to "police-issue 9mm" and we might be onto a quality story...

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Funkenpants wrote:
SwampYankee wrote:
Reminds me of once when I killed a gopher with a stick. I'll tell you the story some time.

Change "gopher" to "suspect" and stick to "police-issue 9mm" and we might be onto a quality story...

Sounds like a rerun to me.

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Funkenpants wrote:
SwampYankee wrote:
Reminds me of once when I killed a gopher with a stick. I'll tell you the story some time.

Change "gopher" to "suspect" and stick to "police-issue 9mm" and we might be onto a quality story...

Change "gopher" to "Lobster's mom" and "stick" to err..."stick" and we have some good "Bow-chicca-wow-wow"

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