What the f*ck. 2008. It better be f*cking Jan. This is the sh*t Sopranos pulled, and I dropped that show in a hot second.

If the Chief is a cylon, how come his baby ain't so special?

Im not sure what I think. For certain the BSG of old is gone. I still love the show, but it's not the same. Anyways, I SOOO called Starbuck coming back and the Earth thing!!

How do we know he's not? Hera looks like a normal kid, too. Now, Nicky never cured anyone of cancer, but then again, nobody thought to steal his stem cells while he was in utero, either.

Def. Her or Roslin (and I only say Roslin because she's privy to the Opera House dreams - but then again, so was Baltar, so who knows. Maybe Caprica's just Cylon-projecting willy-nilly.) But wouldn't it be cool if (and I don't know how in the world they would pull it off) Leoban had been telling the truth back in Season 1, and Adama was the final Cylon?

Or Billy. Dammit.

Billy is dead, babe. Billy is dead.

/cue misirlou

Three words: jumped the shark. I mean come on, using a Hendrix song to "activate" the four cylons? What's next? Are we going to find out that their cylon names are John, Paul, George, and Ringo?

Quick, someone calculate how long it'd take "The Watchtower" broadcast on Radio to hit that Nebula. I bet that's the year on Earth. When they get there, we'd better not be a bunch of damn space hippies.

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Here's my opinion and it's not going to be haterade for once. BSG has annoyed me almost all season, Exodus excepted. I never liked the Occupation, I still stand by my opinion that some characters have been ruined, some needlessly killed, and the show probably should have been two or three tight seasons.

That said, if you're going to rescue a sinking ship, this is the way to do it. The last two episodes, this one in particular, have been great. It may be hovering over the shark, but if you're going to jump that shark, man you jump it with panache and style and guts. And this episode did all that. If it's possible to ruin a show that started so good it might just be possible to reinvent it in the middle and save it at the end. Who knows. This was a good start, IMHO.

Sorry, no bickering, I actually liked it.

Yea... I think that sums it up.

I'm just glad to have had two space operas in my life. It was so awesome, I haven't had my heart beat in excitement due to a television sci-fi series since Babylon 5! The truly amazing part is I somehow got tricked into forgetting that the last ten minutes were going to be exciting. Of course it was going to be exciting, it was the season finale! I think I know how they did it-by concluding the trial they gave us a faux climax and epilogue. Not only that, they made sure the attitude of everyone following the trial was either going-about-my-day-la-de-la-off-to-the-next or oh-my-gods-I'm-not-a-celebrity-anymore mood. Simply marvelous.

It just occured to me that they've spent the entire season dealing with the fallout from New Caprica. I sure hope that's over as a new chapter certainly seems imminent. When I saw the '2008', I felt like it was going to be a year, hopefully it's closer to nine months. Anyway, some predictions, the cylon fleet chasing them aren't bad guys and are comprised of the final five models; Baltar's new fan club is going to kidnap Hera; I don't know how Caprica Six escapes; Roslin will die; one but not both of Admiral Adama and Roslin will proclaim their love for one another; lawyer guy will not make a reappearance because he's too cool a character; Baltar's fan club was responsible for the fleet powering down(because if they don't have the numbers and drive to have pulled it off, then they aren't a strong enough force to be players next season and they will be players); and in case you haven't been counting that's two human factions and two cylon factions; and in case you don't get where I'm going with this-they will form into two separate human-cylon alliances-then again they might not since I think they've demonstrated that they just don't have the budget to do that-they couldn't even have two battlestars for frak's sake; the movie will be great; you will be bummed when I'm right about the alliances cause you will see it coming but remember it is the managing of the alliances that the real fun and work is going to be seen; Athena, having lost her immunity, will catch that cylon-killing virus.

Didn't that commercial from a few weeks back promise that only one person was going to discover they're a cylon? I'm okay with it though. The real question, how do you like their choices for being cylons and will Seelix still like Anders? Also, Seelix is definitely hotter. I wonder if they used a dart board. I mean, with that many cast members was it hard to choose? Do they have any particular significance since it was going to be a shock regardless of who was chosen? When are the four on Galactica going to figure out that the rest of the cylons don't recognize them? Actually, never mind, did some browsing and it appears that those who are cyclons are also those whom no one believed to be cylon.

The only thing I didn't like about this episode: Tory and Anders? Wha? Huh? Most random hookup ever.

Whoever above said that the entire season was dealing with the fallout from New Caprica was correct, and last night was the culmination of it. I loved Lee's little speech on the stand, especially since it actually showed continuity - something many of us have complained about this season - as well as Baltar's reaction to the verdict: that one little tear of joy before he became Slimy Baltar again.

The good:
The writer's remembered Lee's character this week, and they gave him the most dramatic part of the show. The trial stuff in general was great, especially the immediate aftermath when Baltar tried to turn on his self-delusions again before realizing what was about to happen to him. Laura being in rapport with the Cylons could have been an interesting twist. Which leads me into...

The bad:
The Cylon reveal. For me, it undermined too much of the show. The romance between the Chief and Boomer, the unique and special cylon baby, the resistance on New Caprica, and every mistake Tigh ever made while trying to do the right thing have all been rendered meaningless. With that one stroke, the writers managed to remove most of the humanity from the show. And whether she's a Cylon or not, where did Kara get the viper?

The ugly:
Hey, I hear "All Along the Watchtower" in my head all the time. Oh my fracking gods, I'm a cylon! I guess I'll just go to work now.

I loved that finale so much I want to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant.

So impressed with Lee's speech. The cylon-reveal-with-Watchtower-lyrics was definitely strange, but I liked how they seemed as incredulous as the audience must be. Glad to see Kara's special destiny is more than a swirly cloud suicide. Entertaining and strangely unsettling.

I watched it last night and really enjoyed it. But this point here has me intrigued. What if, like you said, earth has been visited before but by the final 5 and the cylon ships we see at the end are those of the 5? Maybe they are not there as for the same reasons as the cylon fleet that has been chasing them all this time (didnt see any actual battle starting... no ships blowing up)?

This is what I mean. How and Why can the current batch of cylons that we know of NOT know about the final 5? I have never ever understood that. When I ask about it, nobody seems to have an answer. The only logical answer I have is that the final 5 somehow didnt agree w/ the rest and broke off from the main cylon "culture" and took off to earth. Maybe to protect it, warn it?

I dont know...

Anyway... one point I have is that the song at the end supposedly revealing who 4 of the final 5 are just doesnt make sense. Why use a song? And on top of all that... it was their assertion that if they are hearing a song and nobody else is that they are cylons. There is absolutely no proof other than their irrational behavior. Hell if hearing a song says your a cylon then having prophecies could probably mean the same thing =/

PAR

Right...that is why I'm still hedging my bets a little, and thinking that we didn't necessarily see four cylons revealed, there. I think it may be telling that the deduction was made by the chief, who has throughout the series shown signs of being a Cylochondriac. I think the song - and yes, even the visions - might be simply evidence that the characters have had exposure to Cylon biology...through blood transfusions, shared sexual partners -I don't know the Tory and Anders stuff is as random as it may appear-, etc.

I think maybe even Helo's 'storm sniffing' is related. We may be seing a species-merging of some sort going on here.

It shouldn't be possible? Add it to the list.