GWJ Conference Call Episode Eighteen

Episode Eighteen - February 14th, 2007

Jeff Green, The Editor in Chief of Games For Windows Joins Us For The Whole Show!, Titan Quest: Immortal Throne Expansion, A Little More Vanguard, The Crazy Go Nuts GFW Top Ten Games, Advertorials and more!

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We are very pleased to be joined by Jeff Green, the Editor In Chief of Games For Windows (formally Computer Gaming World), for the whole show. We talk about independence from Microsoft, the Titan Quest expansion due in March, advertorials, how Bonnie's Bookstore ended up in the GFW Top Ten 2006 list, honest previews and much, much more!

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Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
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Thread of the Week:
What level of journalistic integrity should we expect from a preview? - Souldaddy

Music Credits:

Intro/Outro Music - Ian Dorsch, Willowtree Audioworks

"Small Comfort" - Apoplexia (Benoit Casey) - 0:25:57
"Under Major Influence" New Delhi FM Daylight Confusion - 0:52:25
"Impeller" Ian Dorsch

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Jeff Green, eh? Fancy! Can't wait to give it a listen in the morning.

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Jeff Green is a pimp. And I mean that in the best way possible.

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Hm, more Vanguard. I guess I'm thankful that I'm immune to most MMO news and information. Of course, if I ever see a "Dark Age of Camelot II announced!" headline I would die.

Great podcast.

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This was one of the very rare times when I actually listened to a complete interview in a podcast.
Good stuff, guys.

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I'd love to play Titan Quest, but I can't get it to run on my systems.

EDIT: Hehe... Douchebag McF*ckernuts. Oh my.

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The who joins you for the what?... I'm in bizzaro world. Where's that f-ing iPod!

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That was a stunningly excellent interview. Jeff Green showed great candor, and was interesting and informative to boot. I always knew I liked that guy.

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Ah, you did decide to anwser my email - I guess you don't get that many. It occured to me after I had sent it that a more concise and to the point letter might have been more apropriate, but I think it makes up for it by being only a few weeks late topicwise.

I hadn't thought about the sh*thead factor, otherwise known as "Gabes greater internet f*ckwad theory", and I must admit I hope the competetive nature of W.A.R will be enough to remove the incentive some people have for pissing random passer-by's off.

Also, when listening to the podcast, am i the only one thinking "i wonder who's speaking" when someone says "yeah, I have, actually"? It's quite odd - I've read a few editorials here at GWJ but I can't really figure out who's who on the podcast.

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DreadAle wrote:

Also, when listening to the podcast, am i the only one thinking "i wonder who's speaking" when someone says "yeah, I have, actually"? It's quite odd - I've read a few editorials here at GWJ but I can't really figure out who's who on the podcast.

Well, Elysium is the guy with a beard. Rob has dark hair and I'm the blond guy. There *brushes hands*

Not sure what to do about that, although you're not the first to say so. We do intro everyone at the start, giving each person a chance to say hello, putting a voice to the name for you. I find with other podcasts it just takes a little familiarity before I can start differentiating the voices and personalities, I would imagine it's the same here.

I heard that they were keeping Elysium in the ICU not because he needed intensive care, but because they needed to be careful of his intensity. - Wordsmythe

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I have a little trouble matching real names to GWJ handles, still.

Edit: If I had a complaint, it'd be that I zone out when there's more MMO talk again. I don't mind, but I can't decide if you guys are more centered around your games/characters than LARPers or not. Probably not, though.

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Sean high pitched voice = Certis. He also sounds sleepy at times. Also being the host he is the one that has to talk more than anyone else.
Sean lower pitched voice = Elysium
Coy Banks with the loud and fast point making talk = Demiurge
Nasally voice = Rabbit

edit: The whiny guy is Rob = Gaald.

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I'm going to print that out for reference next conference call.

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wordsmythe wrote:
I have a little trouble matching real names to GWJ handles, still.

Edit: If I had a complaint, it'd be that I zone out when there's more MMO talk again. I don't mind, but I can't decide if you guys are more centered around your games/characters than LARPers or not. Probably not, though.


Mainly a function of where all the game action is at the moment, the Jan/Feb games list is always a little shaky. Should improve in March, hopefully.
Edwin wrote:
Sean high pitched voice = Certis. He also sounds sleepy at times. Also being the host he is the one that has to talk more than anyone else.
Sean lower pitched voice = Elysium
Coy Banks with the loud and fast point making talk = Demiurge
Nasally voice = Rabbit

edit: The whiny guy is Rob = Gaald.


Happy Valentines day. Jerk.

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Certis wrote:
Edwin wrote:
Sean high pitched voice = Certis. He also sounds sleepy at times. Also being the host he is the one that has to talk more than anyone else.
Sean lower pitched voice = Elysium
Coy Banks with the loud and fast point making talk = Demiurge
Nasally voice = Rabbit

edit: The whiny guy is Rob = Gaald.


Happy Valentines day. Jerk.

What? I thought he was dead on.

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Rob sounds like he has a sock in his mouth sometimes. Like his voice has more of a slight echo or rounder. I don't know how to describe it.

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Certis wrote:

Not sure what to do about that, although you're not the first to say so. We do intro everyone at the start, giving each person a chance to say hello, putting a voice to the name for you. I find with other podcasts it just takes a little familiarity before I can start differentiating the voices and personalities, I would imagine it's the same here.

I don't really think there is anything to do about that, on your side of things anyway. It doesn't really bother me that much - if it did, I'd have just listened to some of the podcasts again with the intent of actually distinguishing between name, nick and voice.

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Very good podcast as usual, I think I have to buy Titan Quest at last.. I suppose there is going to be some "Gold edition" out there with expansion ..

Any one can say something about the multiplayer? Havent heard any good or bad thing about it..

About the previews stuff I liked to _hear_ in a podcast a preview, because there you can see how is really the game, just by listening to someone describe it, for example just listen to yourself talking about Vanguard or listen to GFW podcast talking about ET:Quake Wars..

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Edwin wrote:
Rob sounds like he has a sock in his mouth sometimes. Like his voice has more of a slight echo or rounder. I don't know how to describe it.

That's no sock.

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dhelor wrote:
Edwin wrote:
Rob sounds like he has a sock in his mouth sometimes. Like his voice has more of a slight echo or rounder. I don't know how to describe it.

That's no sock.

OMG.

I liked this, I hope guests become a regular feature of GWJCC. Good show, guys!

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Awesome. I love Jeff Green, and I enjoy GFW immensely. Looking forward to listening to this one tomorrow at work.

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It's going to be a while before I hear this one (I'm about two weeks behind), but I want to know if anyone held Jeff Green's feet to the fire over the Escapist's comment! I almost stopped listening to their podcast when he said that, but I forgave, and am glad I did since GFW's podcast is in my top 3 gaming related ones (with GWJ and 1up yours). Still it was a cheap shot! Grrrr...

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sheared wrote:
It's going to be a while before I hear this one (I'm about two weeks behind), but I want to know if anyone held Jeff Green's feet to the fire over the Escapist's comment! I almost stopped listening to their podcast when he said that, but I forgave, and am glad I did since GFW's podcast is in my top 3 gaming related ones (with GWJ and 1up yours). Still it was a cheap shot! Grrrr...

That was mainly a misunderstanding, I seem to recall him and Russ worked it out on the Escapist in print, if not on Escape Radio for the brief time it was running.

I heard that they were keeping Elysium in the ICU not because he needed intensive care, but because they needed to be careful of his intensity. - Wordsmythe

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Great show, one of the best to date!

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Certis wrote:
sheared wrote:
It's going to be a while before I hear this one (I'm about two weeks behind), but I want to know if anyone held Jeff Green's feet to the fire over the Escapist's comment! I almost stopped listening to their podcast when he said that, but I forgave, and am glad I did since GFW's podcast is in my top 3 gaming related ones (with GWJ and 1up yours). Still it was a cheap shot! Grrrr...

That was mainly a misunderstanding, I seem to recall him and Russ worked it out on the Escapist in print, if not on Escape Radio for the brief time it was running.

Yeah, it was a misunderstanding, made worse by my briefly losing my temper--something I rarely do. But we did fix it, and we have talked since and (I think!) things are fine. Oh, and hi everyone! Certis: you guys made me install the LOTR beta today. I'm not sure what I think yet other than my Hobbit is too fat.

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Sounds like Jeff should be a new member of the show but shouldn't replace Rabbit nor Demi. Granted too many people will be hard to do but the contributions from everyone will make it worth while.

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Great show as always. Jeff is a funny and nice guy, He's fits in with the group very well. His show is one of the other good podcasts that I listen too. I laugh me ass off every time I hear the "a puppy dies" for not downloading bit on EGM and 1up shows.

What happened to talking about the PS3 for a gaming Computer given away that Certis made fun that was on Jeff's podcast? Was it a different show?

Rabbit is a must have on the show. I miss hearing his side of things.

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Braehole wrote:
What happened to talking about the PS3 for a gaming Computer given away that Certis made fun that was on Jeff's podcast? Was it a different show?

Tee Hee! That was PC Gamer.

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sheared wrote:
It's going to be a while before I hear this one (I'm about two weeks behind), but I want to know if anyone held Jeff Green's feet to the fire over the Escapist's comment! I almost stopped listening to their podcast when he said that, but I forgave, and am glad I did since GFW's podcast is in my top 3 gaming related ones (with GWJ and 1up yours). Still it was a cheap shot! Grrrr...

So that WAS him - I thought I had it wrong, since people didn't mention it. Speaking of which, could anyone enlighten me regarding the status of The Escapist Radio?

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Edwin wrote:
Sounds like Jeff should be a new member of the show but shouldn't replace Rabbit nor Demi. Granted too many people will be hard to do but the contributions from everyone will make it worth while.

Sounds like Jeff should become a regular goodjer. Throw him to the P&Cs!

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