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I haven't seen anything about this around here... honestly, I'm a little surprised.

Well, Snicker's pulled their Men Kissing ad after GLAAD (The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) protested it for being "anti-gay". Honestly, while I believe the ad to be a bit homophobic, I don't see why it they couldn't just, I don't know, not buy Snickers bars? Maybe I'm just being a little insensitive here.

What spawned this post though, is the GM robot ad that has now been pulled from the airwaves, when the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention started getting complaints.

Now, while, again, this commercial may be a bit insensitive to those that are depressed and suicidal, I really don't see how it's "Offensive". I can't count the number of times I've been overworked and feeling a little like the robot... honestly, equating obsession with suicidal ideation is fairly accurate.

What do you guys think?

Oh, and tomorrow, chainsaw wielding hitchhikers are going to have Bud Lite's ad taken down.

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Apparently no one has a sense of humor and you can only turn to caricatures of straight, white men for comedy. Come to think of it, is "honky" still funny?

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I don't think the Superbowl advert is homophobic. I think it's more about straight men than it is about gay guys.

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I didn't think that ad was funny, but it's ridiculous that it got pulled for not being politically correct. It in no way denigrates homosexuals! And pulling the suicidal robot ad...seriously, are suicidal people really the best gauge of whether an ad is appropriate or not?

No big loss in either case, since they weren't terribly funny, but political correctness continues to be absolutely out of control.

That hitchhiker with an axe commercial was hysterical, though. Loved the ending where the first one is scared of the second.

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That hitchhiker with an axe commercial was hysterical, though. Loved the ending where the first one is scared of the second.

I had to throw it in there somehow. That was my favorite of the ones I've seen.

The Snicker's ad is homophobic in the way that, it shows that if two men were to kiss, it's bad, and they have to do something to "fix" the situation, lest they become homosexuals. I'm not saying it's the same as hanging a gay guy from a tree homophobic, but it puts homosexuality in a bad light nonetheless. Still, I think a boycott of the product would have been a much better avenue, as thats what really takes the power out of the commercial.

The robot ad is silly, and I think the suicide prevention group is really just using it for publicity. Kinda like, "If someone hurts you in some way, we'll fight your battles for you... now, on the octopus, show me where the bad commercial hurt you." I hate to admit this (as it's completely insensitive, but at least it lives up to my screen name), but my first thought of this piece of news was, "What... did they threaten GM with mass suicides if they didn't pull the ad?"

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The Snicker's ad is homophobic in the way that, it shows that if two men were to kiss, it's bad, and they have to do something to "fix" the situation, lest they become homosexuals. I'm not saying it's the same as hanging a gay guy from a tree homophobic, but it puts homosexuality in a bad light nonetheless. Still, I think a boycott of the product would have been a much better avenue, as thats what really takes the power out of the commercial.

I agree that it was homophobic...I found myself a bit offended by it, even as a straight guy.

But, the hitchhiker ad was brilliant, I thought! It's sort of a spoof on any manner of horror film, and it was one of the funniest in a pretty lame season for SuperBowl ads.

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Damn. I guess I'm outnumbered.

Odd. I had a lot of gay 'nannies' when I was a kid and my family became known as a 'safe house' for gay guys visiting the UK.

Well, guess I'm a bigot. Oh well.

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I got a kick out of the Nationwide / Federline commercial, but I heard that some group was upset because it denigrated people that work in fast food. stupid...

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and it gave kfed a little more press time too

and the ad, if you haven't seen it.
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I didn't take the Snickers ad as homophobic either; rather, I thought it ridiculed the level of homophobia that these guys had. Put the straight guy in a bad light.

I was watching with friends that are pretty conservative, and their reactions were along the lines of 'what a bunch of idiots' rather than any display of anti-gay or homophobic feelings. I'm more annoyed at the backlash than anything.

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Malkiel wrote:
I got a kick out of the Nationwide / Federline commercial, but I heard that some group was upset because it denigrated people that work in fast food. stupid...

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In a letter to Nationwide, Steven C. Anderson, president and chief executive officer of the Washington, D.C.-based National Restaurant Association, charged that the ad "give[s] the impression that working in a restaurant is a demeaning and unpleasant," and stands as a "direct insult to the 12.8 million Americans who work in the restaurant industry."

It's not? Maybe if it paid more, it'd have a better image. Fast food is a great place to work if you have absolutely no qualifications for ANYTHING else, and your living rent free. I'm not saying it's bad (it's honestly a great job for high school kids), but how many middle-aged people do you find working there, that aren't managers? $5.15 an hour would just barely pay my wife's car payment at the end of the month. I think I'd have a little left over for a snickers.

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I honestly think america has set the bar for politically correct so high, it is now virtually impossible to do or show anything without someone getting offended. Having seen it from a neutral set of eyes when I was living in Seattle, I can say that it is extremely easy to offend someone. Me being atheist offended most people right of the bat. Was actually kinda freaky...

I also feel that taking the ads down is the wrong thing to do. If anything, show them more so that people can see it for themselves and make up their own mind about it, and not what the reporter on MSNBC is telling them about it. It's that sort of cencorship that puts America at 53rd place on RSFs Worldwide Press Freedom Index

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Man. And I thought witch hunts were so 16th century...

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Man. And I thought witch hunts were so 16th century...

No, they just use digital scales and virtual ducks now.

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While I can't say that I was offended by any of the Super Bowl ads that I saw, can I at least add that I am sick of seeing/hearing the Rolling Rock commercial apology. I didn't even see the ad, but I gotta listen to some guy yammer on and on about how they will try to do better next time.

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I just didn't think the snickers commercial was funny. It's probably for the best it's off the air, because it makes me NOT want a snickers. Not that I really eat them anyway... Maybe the Snickers people realized that too late, and just played up the protest from GLAAD in order to get some free publicity for pulling it.

The GM ad was just a bad marketing decision. The whole spot featured an incredibly depressing story about a robot committing suicide (well, dream-suicide), and then you don't get a happy ending (maybe robot heaven, making GM's and actually getting to drive them?). All it did was make me associate depressing, suicidal emotions with GM. Probably not what they were going for.

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Malkiel wrote:
I didn't take the Snickers ad as homophobic either; rather, I thought it ridiculed the level of homophobia that these guys had. Put the straight guy in a bad light.

That's exactly my feeling: the commercial makes fun of these guys for their ridiculous reaction to accidentally touching lips.

As Agemmon says, political correctness is just out of control in this country. I've never been in favor of it, but it has gone from targeting actual inappropriate behavior to calling people out for even bringing up a particular subject, almost regardless of how it's presented.

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With the GM ad, two thoughts came to my head.

1) With all of the problems that GM is having financially, why did they drop that much money on an ad that didn't showcase their cars at all. So what if 'the robot' worries about screwing up (probably concerned since they can't afford maintenance on said robot)

2) I wonder how all the laid off employees felt. I assume it was along the lines of 'why should i give a f*#k about the robot', or worse. i mean, that's how i felt about the ad, and have a desk job in finance.

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The Snickers commercial definitely didn't make me more likely to go out and buy one. I don't consider it homophobic. Then, I'm not gay, so my perspective may be different from theirs.

The robot commercial was kind of meh. Didn't bother me, but didn't impress me.

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You know, my girlfriend and I both laughed very hard at the Snickers ad. We both thought it was poking fun at the homophobia of the characters and the lengths to which people will try to prove they're not gay.

And, on the second one,

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The first, and only thing I thought is that it IS demeaning and unpleasant. Why is it such a problem to say that working in fast food is a bucket of crap dumped on you every day?
Who really has a problem with the lack of sensitivity? Somehow, I doubt it's fast food workers (who would cheer the attitude). Yuppies with nothing better to do but champion worthless causes in an effort to feel better about the lack of meaning in their life?

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PurEvil wrote:
I'm not saying it's bad (it's honestly a great job for high school kids), but how many middle-aged people do you find working there, that aren't managers? $5.15 an hour would just barely pay my wife's car payment at the end of the month. I think I'd have a little left over for a snickers.

It's more than unpleasant - working fast food is unpleasant enough that they have to pay well over minimum wage just to get people to work there. I imagine the National Restaurant Association was not happy to see the costly image reinforced.

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With the GM ad, two thoughts came to my head.

1) With all of the problems that GM is having financially, why did they drop that much money on an ad that didn't showcase their cars at all. So what if 'the robot' worries about screwing up (probably concerned since they can't afford maintenance on said robot)

That's another good point. Is the reason that GM is in dire financial straits really that people believe their quality assurance is bad? No - it's because their cars aren't as attractive to buyers as those of other motor companies. Personally, I think they would do a lot more good by coming up with a new logo or otherwise rebranding themselves. But ultimately, what they need is cooler cars. A Nissan Altima is a lot cooler than a Ford 500 (sorry, 500 owners of the world).

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I have to agree with y'alls view on the GM ad. It wasn't funny. It wasn't even entertaining... it was just, depressing. And honestly, in that whole commercial, I couldn't tell you one car that I remember. I'm not even sure what GM makes (just not a car person... I tend to drive whatever's cheap and at least semi-operational at the time I'm looking for one).

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Wait. There was no backlash against the godaddy commercials this year? If the groups that argue against these "offensive ads" would figure out that by taking it to the main stream news media, the marketing people do high-fives because they get better exposure than they *ever* could've gotten with the actual ad. In better locations too. For free.

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Malkiel wrote:
I didn't take the Snickers ad as homophobic either; rather, I thought it ridiculed the level of homophobia that these guys had. Put the straight guy in a bad light.

That was my take, too, but then I generally tend to laugh at prejudice and ignorance. Stupid people are funny.

The depression camp strikes kind of close to home, but I think it's important to remember that clinically depressed people are in fact irrational when it comes to things like this. I don't think GM should have felt compelled to make special allowances for folks that far away from the societal norm, but maybe it was a little bad. Now that I think about it, a lot of depressives I know are also perfectionists. Hm. Anyway, when I first saw the ad, it reminded me of It's a Wonderful Life. I like that movie.

And yeah, K Fed had to apologize for insulting fast food workers. My take: Being associated with that "man" is insulting.

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Wait. There was no backlash against the godaddy commercials this year? If the groups that argue against these "offensive ads" would figure out that by taking it to the main stream news media, the marketing people do high-fives because they get better exposure than they *ever* could've gotten with the actual ad. In better locations too. For free.

It's an amusing (at least to me) symbiotic relationship that the advertisers and anti-defamation organizations have. It's such a simple formula and it works because of the inherent whininess of people.

  • Create slightly edgy ad that plays on a stereotype or touches on a controversial subject
  • Wait for the inevitable complaints from a vocal minority, who pump money to their favorite anti-defamation organization
  • Anti-defamation organization has to pressure advertiser in order to placate members
  • Advertiser apologizes or discontinues ad to placate anti-defamation organization, members claim success
  • Increased exposure results in successful ad campaign

I also love how the Prince guitar solo silhouette "controversy" has everyone talking about Prince again. Genius.

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All it did was make me associate depressing, suicidal emotions with GM. Probably not what they were going for.

Have you been to Flint, MI?

PS: Not P&C? Really? Might there be politics and controversey involved here?

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That's another good point. Is the reason that GM is in dire financial straits really that people believe their quality assurance is bad? No - it's because their cars aren't as attractive to buyers as those of other motor companies.

Quality is a big part of that. The GM vehicles I've driven have been pretty decent, but the thought of big service bills or mine crapping out on the highway or on a trip into the city just puts me off altogether. The problem with the ad isn't that it stresses quality, it's just that nobody really believes it. The same ad run by Toyota, with the robot committing Hari-kari when it screws up, would work a lot better.

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As a formerly suicidal robot, I am severely offended by this entire thread.

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The same ad run by Toyota, with the robot committing Hari-kari when it screws up, would work a lot better.

That would be hysterical, actually. And before anyone mentions it: the Ford 500 is not a GM vehicle, I know. But it's a similar American car from the company most like a GM company.

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