No love for Gothic 3?
Tuesday, November 21st, 2006 - 4:53am
I picked it up today on a whim (my local game store didn't have any copies of Dark Crusade of M & M) since I have heard very good things about it. Initially I had no desire to get it when it was announced because of the extreme frustration Gothic II gave me.
But.. I have yet to open the cellophane, and probably won't until after I wake up tomorrow for the first day of Thanksgiving Break. Yay for a full week off of gaming! Maybe. I'll probably be busy as hell with friends.
What do you all think of it? Robear, I know you've probably at least touched it. Any thoughts?
Yet even then we ran like the wind,
whilst our laughter echoed under cerulean skies...
Ooooh, I want to hear about this, too. I loved Gothic and Gothic 2, and have heard almost nothing about Gothic 3. I want to pick up G2:Gold and play through it again before picking up G3, but I'd love to hear a few non-spoiler reviews!
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- Yay Kathode!XBL Gamertag - Mm Burritos
The demo certainly did nothing to assuage my concerns over the game. It feels just like Gothic II, only at 1/3 the framerate.
My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle.
Whoa!
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My friend wasn't too pleased with the game. He usually has the same taste I have, so I haven't touched it myself.
I don't watch, I interact!
The general consensus in my neck of the woods seems to be that it'll be a beautiful and fun game... When it's done next year. Das Buggening has struck again.
And if I haven't seen further, it's because those bloody giants blocked my sight.
Hopefully I am getting this for christmas. So no impressions from me. Only thing I have heard about it is that it shipped in a not-quite-done-yet state.
Somewhere on a deep ocean vent no man has ever seen, God smites a small colony of tube worms because you masturbate.-JoeBedurndurn, on sin
...Featuring wildlife that would instagib lvl 33 characters, for example. I keep wondering how JoWood can stay in business when they keep publishing half-baked products.
And if I haven't seen further, it's because those bloody giants blocked my sight.
I've been playing it for the best part of a month and it is all of the following:
+Beautiful and full of character.
+So large it circumnavigates the globe.
+Varied in its environments.
+Reasonably voice acted .
+Interesting background.
+Very free-form.
+In some ways better than Oblivion.
-Possessed of a multitude of cucarachas.
-Deathly slow unless you crack it.
-Sub-quests inspired by the biography of a obsessive compulsive stamp collector/courier.
-A plot with more holes than KOTOR2 and almost impossible to find objects.
-Samey after the 100th hr.
-Extremely, I reiterate, extremely frustrating.
In its current semi-patched state I would give it a 7.9/10
I also bought it at full price and don't regret it. Though my quick load button will need replacing.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Churchill
Oh, come on now; are you sure it's better than a 7.8?
Can you define some of the bugs? Also, what do you mean by slow unless you crack it?
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Dezlen:
Standard lack of polish bugs, missing items here, unfinished quests there, a sprinkle of characters who won't talk to you and mission critical items that vanish or have been carried away in the belly of a jackal (I am not joking).
The copy protection on the game was very effective... for about 3 days. Unfortunately it also causes outlandish stuttering and load times in the minutes. If you own it and your domestic law allows, crack it.
Farcry:
You are 96.81% baboon.
I am, if nothing, fastidious about my scoring.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Churchill
I picked it up the day it was released but have yet to install it. NWN2 has monopolized my gaming time as of late.
Hopefully by the time I get to it, it'll be sufficiently patched up.
Same here. I've been trudging through NWN2 (quite happily mind you), but with all the talk of delicious new games people have been buying I felt like I should join the party and pick up something. I was tempted to get the King's or Space Quest Collections at twenty a pop, but knew not how they would play on XP.. so I went with Gothic.
No matter if it's good or not, I at least own it. And it's going right besides Arx Fatalis when I'm done.
Yet even then we ran like the wind,
whilst our laughter echoed under cerulean skies...
7.9/10 for a extremely frustrating game? By the sounds of this thread such a game would get into the below zero figures for me. I hate being frustrated.
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Well, here's the thing. Despite bitching like rich heiresses, none of my friends stopped playing...
And if I haven't seen further, it's because those bloody giants blocked my sight.
I've been looking forward to this one, but my plan is to wait until I build a new machine that can make it pretty. (of course, at the current rate of things, I'll have the money for a new system when chip-in-head 3.0 comes out)
Perhaps I'll wait for the game to be patched or fixed a la G2:NotR. Any word on the German version of the game? Are the bugs just for us anglo-talkers?
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Gothic II was probably one of the most frustrating games (for the first few days, while learning how to actually fight) I've ever played. It is also on my top 10 list, right below Ultima 4-7, Daggerfall, Deus Ex, Thief, and System Shock 2.
As far as I'm concerned, that's a pretty prestigious place for an incredibly frustrating game to be on. In my opinion, frustrating or not, Gothic 3 will deserve a thorough play through once I've plowed through the overwhelming list of games that I'm working on.
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- Yay Kathode!XBL Gamertag - Mm Burritos
I got my copy.. It was cheaper than everything else new on the shelf, as usual. We shall see..
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Reviews on Gamespot and Gamespy - pretty much say bugs are game stoppers on the US version and that it overall blows. I had high hopes for this one as I liked 1 & 2 despite the craptacular interface.
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I'm hopeful that with enough patches, it will shine. I loved Gothic 2, so it won't take much to make the third one worth playing for me.
Certis beat me to it. - Elysium
We're talking Gamespy here, who gave Gothic II a 2 out of 5.
Anyhoo, the game is bug-ridden and the fact that a die-hard fan of the series like me didn't pick it up at day one, since I refuse to support companies that release incomplete games is pretty much telling. The developers admitted it openly - what else could they do anyway? - and there's a number of German threads where they talk about why this or that feature didn't make it. Funny indicators of why a team of 20 persons isn't enough to handle a project of this size. Too bad you guys have to babelfish gems like this.
I'll probably get it when the price is lower and when a few more patches are available. I borrowed it from a friend just to find out that it 'met my expectations'. And yes, 1) I do need a new PC for that one, 2) obvious glitches, 3) the fighting system is a frickin' disgrace.
On part 3) - I don't get it at all. Fighting was fun and exciting in the previous Gothic II. At least if you used the right one. Unfortunately, PB decided to build upon the one that sucked for part III. It's a stupid, tedious click-fest now. Most battles can be won by simply pushing the right mouse-button frequently. Parry? Dodge? Hah. And everything's not even particularly balanced.
Nevertheless, there certainly is a good game beneath all this. I'll get it some day.
The fighting system is gimped. Parrying is more likely to get you killed now and you'd better not stop swinging or you might get forced into a stun lock.. but it's still Gothic... I'm conflicted.
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I picked this up Wensday, along with a dvd burner because theres no cd versions, and I've been playing it since. Yes it stutters like hell sometimes, and yes the combat system is screwed to hell. But the story is amazing, and even with these problems I keep playing it. It used to crash often but I got the EU 1.09 path and now its fine, except the sluggishness.
I didn't know cracking it would help the sluggishness, thanks for the tip.
I'd say deffinetly get this game when they finally fix it, the combat system needs huge work.
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No offense (yeah, right...), but that page is yet another excellent explanation for why I do no longer frequent title-centric communities. They're unhappy about a number of points in G3. I can understand that, I really do, but do they have to lampoon everything, including the screen name of the project manager, because of that? Reading such stuff always makes me vaguely ashamed of sharing the author's opinions.
And if I haven't seen further, it's because those bloody giants blocked my sight.
Das Buggening sounds like it would be a hilarious machinima movie. Someone put that engine to good use. The new Red vs. Blue is on the horizon.
"YOU SPOIL, YOU GET SPOILED! AAAAHAHAHAHAHA!"
After stalling in NWN2 I decided to fire up Gothic 3 last night. Much to my surprise, after having the demo run flawlessly on my system, I encountered frame rates of 15fps even with the details on low.
[system: AMD2 4200/2 gigs ram/geforce 7900]
After digging around for a bit, I highly recommend checking out the stickies on the jowood technical support forum before trying out any ideas of one's own. It turns out that the abysmal frame rates were caused by a font that gives geforec 7800 series and above fits.
This made the game run silky smooth even with the graphics maxed out.
Another issue I came across was white flashes which appeared on the screen when I tried to examine certain objects. Once again the stickies provided the answer.
Just thought I'd repost the information here in the hopes that it will help my fellow goodjers avoid any unnecessary pain.
Has this game been patched into playableness? Every review I have read said the bugs were deal breakers. Christmas is around the corner, and I'd like to play it eventually.
Somewhere on a deep ocean vent no man has ever seen, God smites a small colony of tube worms because you masturbate.-JoeBedurndurn, on sin
Seconded, I've been holding off and waiting for it to be patched up. It helps I have 8 hojillion other games to play
Certis beat me to it. - Elysium
Yes, it is a busy time on my computer. M2TW just does not want to release it's grip, NWN2 has been put on hold, GoW wants me, BfME2 has an expansion out, I still haven't played Rise of Legends, Knights of the Nine is on sale this week, etc. I'm almost glad there is a lull in the spring/summer.
Somewhere on a deep ocean vent no man has ever seen, God smites a small colony of tube worms because you masturbate.-JoeBedurndurn, on sin
Waiting would be wise. I sat down with it a while ago and was completely turned off by the bugs and poor performance. It's just brutal waiting for those loads. The first load when you start the game takes my system about 1-2 minutes and it's no slouch. Quickloading takes about 10-15 seconds. The first bug I encountered was a real winner. When you leave the starting town to go find someone for a quest and talk to them, not returning directly to the town as instructed results in people vanishing from the town (reappearing elsewhere in the world) and new people appearing there even though you are supposed to get a quest to make that happen upon returning to town. This all happened in the first 20 minutes of game. It didn't stop with the bugs, so I did. And this is with the already twice-patched NA release. I hate to imagine what the Euro release was like. ->Therefore I will play EVE until some more patching happens.
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As far as I can tell the NA edition was released at version 1.08 and there have been no patches for it as of yet.
from http://gothic3.aspyr.com/default/news/16