Classical Music Fans?

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Ahh classical music. I was wondering if anyone listens to it around here ? I just bought my first legally purchased CD just to listen to this music. It is Charles-Valentin Alkan's Grand Sonate 'Les quatre ages' and 'Sonatine - Le festin d'Esope' performed by Marc-Andre Hamelin. This composer, was, for lack of strong enough adjectives, amazing. He was a true genius in the art of piano, and the only thing more amazing than his ability, is how forgotten he has become. It's sad really, because, listening to this CD, I can hear how his talent rivals, if not surpasses, more well-known composers and pianists. I highly recommend this CD to anyone who has even a vague appreciation of classical piano. Does anyone else have any other suggestions of little-known composers? I'd really like to start digging up some old forgotten gems of classical music.

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I'm not familiar with Alkan, but I'm a classical music fan. I tend to prefer full blown symphonies, and consider my knowledge on the matter to be relatively limited to the more widely known composers. My personal favorite for some time has been Dvorak's Ninth.

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I'll have to look at this when I get home. It's been a while since I expanded my list of approved classical composers.

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I listen to it via Sirius Online's Symphony Hall and Sirius Pops channels; does that count? I pull the "programmer hermit" move at work with the enormous headphones so as to drown out the distracting sounds of the workplace. I usually don't know what I am listening to but I like it.

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He's not little known, and he doesn't do piano (that I know of), but Vivaldi's pretty gosh-darn awesome. If he were alive today, he would have made "Four Seasons" as a prog-metal concept album.

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I have a weird question but probably lack the musical vocabulary to express it. Why do the most complicated pieces of music evoke the simple, powerful emotions while the less complex works evoke the more subtle, intricate emotions?

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Danjo.. my particular theory about that would be that complex emotions seem to have full ideas, and leave little to the imagination, while a simple work is almost like a haiku, in that its interpretation is more open, and allows more freedom to the listener to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. I kind of want to compare to a novel and a haiku, but I suppose the truly skilled authors can make their novels open to interpretation while still having something resembling a plot.

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I'm a classical music fan, though my collection is weighted a little more toward the vocal end of the spectrum. I can find something to appreciate in most anything out there, but I tend to find myself indentifying most strongly with early music and modern stuff. I also love a good lied, and the impressionists have a lot to offer. And then you've got your wacky New Viennese guys, and...aw heck, I like it all!

As far as little-known composers, I'm a big fan of the early 20th Century English dudes. Pretty much everyone knows Vaughan Williams and Holst, but many of their lesser-known contemporaries penned some truly stunning material including Stanford, Finzi, Gurney, Howells, Parry, etc. If you're looking for some great Christmas music, look up Herbert Howells' Three Carol-Anthems (Here is the Little Door, A Spotless Rose and Sing Lullabye). It's some of the most hauntingly beautiful choral music ever written.

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My classical stuff consists primarily of two little-known composers named Mozart and Beethoven.

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I love classical music. When I was a kid, it was the only kind of music I listened to. My favorite composers are Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, and Schubert. My favorite compositions are Eine Kleine Nachtmusik by Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart, Moonlight Sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven, Prelude Op. 28 No. 20 (especially the two guitar version on one of my CDs) by Frédéric François Chopin, and Serenade in D minor (again, dual guitars preferred) by Franz Peter Schubert.

I also like Claude Debussy's Clair de Lune; Richard Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra; Vivaldi's Four Seasons; Georges Bizet's L'Arlesienne Suite No. 1: Overture (and the very similar L'Arlesienne Suite No. 2: Farandole); Edvard Grieg's Piano Concerto in A, Op 16-1: Allegrom Molto Moderato; and George Frederic Handel's Water Music Suite #2 in D, HWV 349-2, Alla Hornpipe. There's surely others, but that's the cream of my CD crop.

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I really like classical music but not particularly from specific composers. However, I can say that Moonlight Sonata by Beethoven is my all time favorite.

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sgt. racoon wrote:
Danjo.. my particular theory about that would be that complex emotions seem to have full ideas, and leave little to the imagination, while a simple work is almost like a haiku, in that its interpretation is more open, and allows more freedom to the listener to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. I kind of want to compare to a novel and a haiku, but I suppose the truly skilled authors can make their novels open to interpretation while still having something resembling a plot.

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I wouldn't classify myself as a "fan", but I do really enjoy classical music and have some in my collection.

I have a tendancy to avoid the modernists in favor of the classics though. I'm certainly biased.

Some of my favorite recordings of classical music are the Rachel Podger series of Bach sonatas. She plays in the baroque style which in spite of the name has less vibrato and general ornamentation than you might be used to hearing. It's also played on a fiddle that is strung with gut. Really great stuff, and very different from the seminal 20th century recordings.

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Some very good suggestions I'm going to have to look into, especially the vocal music. Seems I'm going to have to invest in a few more actual CDs.
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I sing a bit of classical music, yeah, but the subtlety of complicated pieces escape me. Once in a while I'd be in the mood for Brahms, othertimes Dvorak, and it's back to Sinatra et al. soon afterward.

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Classical music, for me, is the only reason to own a stereo. Though I like a lot of different music, compared to classical everything else is a side dish. There is plenty of good stuff out there. In recent times I've been very hooked on Howard Shore and the entire sound track to LOTR's. However I can live without Annie Lennox singing.

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I play classical piano (although I've very rusty) and my roommate is a professional violist and performed on the Scanner Darkly soundtrack. So I guess than makes us fans.

EDIT: Oh, and my favorite piece is Beethoven's 7th, 2nd movement. Beautiful example of fugue.

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Tchaikovsky is my favorite classical composer. I've never listened to anything he wrote that I haven't enjoyed. And yes, cliched as it might be, his Nutcracker suite is my favorite of his compositions.

Classical music and orchestral soundtracks (LotR, Star Wars, etc) are pretty much all I own and listen to on my stereo. iTunes has my other tastes (rock mostly).

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Farscry wrote:
Tchaikovsky is my favorite classical composer. I've never listened to anything he wrote that I haven't enjoyed. And yes, cliched as it might be, his Nutcracker suite is my favorite of his compositions.

As far as Tchaikovsky goes, I agree that the best was his Nutcracker suite.

Here recently I've been listening to an old favorite of mine, Gustov Holst. A few of his pieces from The Planets are up on YouTube.com. He did a separate piece for each planet, save Earth and Pluto. Funnily enough, he didn't write one for Pluto because he just wasn't interested in it as a planet. A composer by the name of Colin Matthews (IIRC), came behind him and wrote a Pluto, because many people felt that without it, the suite was incomplete. I guess Holst got the last laugh.

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Farscry wrote:
Tchaikovsky is my favorite classical composer. I've never listened to anything he wrote that I haven't enjoyed. And yes, cliched as it might be, his Nutcracker suite is my favorite of his compositions.

I also really like Tchaikovsky (especially his 1812 overture), although I don't really have a favorate composer. This is mainly because my tastes change quite a bit depending on mood. Continueing on the russian theme, I really enjoy Dmitri Shostakovich as well. His 5th symphony being tops on my list.

Another composer that I enjoy, other than ones mentioned here already, is Grieg.

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Beethoven is my favourite composer. There is nothing of his I don't like.

I was once tempted to buy a $1000.00 box set of every piece of music he ever wrote that got recorded, and then I decided paying rent and eating were more important. I'm still not sure I made the right decision

I also like a little bit of opera. Verdi's 'La Traviata' is my favourite opera. I have a really great recording from the Deutsche Grammphon label with Carlos Kleiber conducting. It kicks butt.

If you want a giggle over classical music, I recommend getting P.D.Q. Bach, "The Ill-Conceived P.D.Q. Bach Anthology". It's classical made funny. Oedipus Tex and the 1712 Overture were my favourites.

You can read more about P.D.Q. Bach's creator, Peter Schickele, here: http://www.schickele.com/ and order stuff from the site.

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Danjo Olivaw wrote:
I have a weird question but probably lack the musical vocabulary to express it. Why do the most complicated pieces of music evoke the simple, powerful emotions while the less complex works evoke the more subtle, intricate emotions?

I don't believe it is the complexity of a piece that evokes emotion, but the key that it is played, along with it's tempo. As a basic rule of thumb, music played using alot of majors tends to evoke a more happy emotion, while pieces using minors and 7th's tend to evoke a more somber emotion. There are infinite note combinations that can evoke a certain emotion, and it is this knowledge that composers use to evoke the emotions of his listeners.

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My favorite is Mahler.....especially his 5th and 9th Symphonies by Chailly. So of course I'd recommend him to anybody.

If you are a fan of Classical Piano like I am you'd like The Rubenstein Collection. It has a myriad of different composers all played by Arthur Rubenstein, one of the great pianists. I actually used this collection to find more composers to explore.

Other composers you may want to try are Haydn, Albinoni,and Locatelli. I listen to them all the time at work. I agree with Tchaikovsky, but don't overlook his Sym. No 6 "Pathetique"

A book you may want to check out is " The NPR Guide to Building a Classical CD Collection" I've used that as a guide to find the best stuff to get.

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Mimble wrote:
If you want a giggle over classical music, I recommend getting P.D.Q. Bach, "The Ill-Conceived P.D.Q. Bach Anthology". It's classical made funny. Oedipus Tex and the 1712 Overture were my favourites.

You can read more about P.D.Q. Bach's creator, Peter Schickele, here: http://www.schickele.com/ and order stuff from the site.

Make sure you listen to the track before the 1712 overture. It tells the story of how the piece was "written." It makes what is already a humorous piece of music cause extreme amounts of pain from laughing too hard. Seriously, I could have died.

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Woot for classical music I say.
I went through a period of dicovering the history of classical music, starting with Gregorian chants and polyphony, then moving forward chronologically. I LOVE Josquin Dupre. Hisw "Ave Marie" is so beautiful.
If I had to pick a favourite all time composer I would have to go with Handel. From his Water music to his oratorios such as The Messiah.

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I LOVE Josquin Dupre. Hisw "Ave Marie" is so beautiful.

I agree 100%. Are you talking about the Ave Maria Virgo Serena (Ave Maria a 4)? Josquin wrote a few different Ave Maria settings. Anyway, I've got recordings of both the Tallis Scholars and Chanticleer singing the Ave Maria Virgo Serena and they're both just sublime. I've heard the Chanticleer recording criticized as being too slow to be authentic, but I like it anyway. Those last few bars, with that plaintive "O Mater Dei, memento mei. Amen" give me goose-bumps every time.

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Yeah, a big Amen on the Josquin. I was thinking of recommending him til I read down further.

In terms of music that has truly moved me, anything that's both choral and orchestral by Rachmaninov, most especially his Vespers. Just transcendantly moving. Part of my fondness may come from just how many basso profundos (lowest male voice possible, which is what I sing) them Russians have. Even the choir singing alone can be felt in your gut on a good stereo.

If you're looking for music that is powerfully moving, grab all of the Requiems you can find. Nothing like a good Mass for the Dead to bring out a composer's best.

For soothing classical piano goodness, go with Chopin. Nocturnes. Maybe some Etudes.

And of course, I just love the Big B's, but there's too much to go into. (Bach, Brahms, Beethoven)

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Roo wrote:
In terms of music that has truly moved me, anything that's both choral and orchestral by Rachmaninov, most especially his Vespers. Just transcendantly moving. Part of my fondness may come from just how many basso profundos (lowest male voice possible, which is what I sing) them Russians have. Even the choir singing alone can be felt in your gut on a good stereo.

YES. The Vespers are a must-have for anyone interested in choral music. And speaking of Ave Maria settings, the Bogoroditse Devo from the Vespers is just about as profound a piece of music as you'll ever hear.

And to tie Requiem settings back to my lesser-known English doodz: Herbert Howells' Requiem is really an amazing piece of work. It was written for his son, who died of leukemia, and it was so intensely personal that Howells wouldn't allow it to be published for most of his lifetime. It's only since just before his death in the early 80's that the work has entered the choral repertoire. It's not exactly an easy listen, but it's become one of my favorite Requiems, along with Reqiuems from Brahms, Faure and Palestrina's Missa Pro Defunctis.

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Thinking of Requiem settings reminded me of Polish composer Henryk Gorecki's Symphony No. 3, also known as Symphony of Sorrowful Songs. Under the right circumstances, this thing will just knock you on your ass. Seeing the Symphony No. 3 done live by a good orchestra and great soprano actually moved me to tears, and I'm a pretty jaded motherf*cker.

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I took a couple semesters of music appreciation in college. For most it was an easy "A" but it was something I really enjoyed.

At this point I mostly listen to Symphony Hall on SIRIUS. At some point I will build a nice classical collection, though my explorations in jazz and electronic music are more at the forefront right now. Too much music, not enough years on Earth.

Podunk: I was going to mention Gorecki's Symphony No 3. I haven't seen it live but I have a great London Sinfonietta CD that someone recommended to me years ago, fantastic stuff.

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I am looking for suggestions for some dark and/or mournful classical music.

Preferably something not ham-fisted. Chamber pieces and especially sparse piano works are preferred but not required.

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