Germany charges Rumsfeld, Tenet on Abu Ghraib
Friday, November 10th, 2006 - 4:28pm
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html
That didn't take long. This administration may be in more trouble than we think.
Quote:
"The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer," says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a U.S.-based non-profit helping to bring the legal action in Germany. He also notes that the Military Commissions Act, a law passed by Congress earlier this year, effectively blocks prosecution in the U.S. of those involved in detention and interrogation abuses of foreigners held abroad in American custody going to back to Sept. 11, 2001. As a result, Ratner contends, the legal arguments underlying the German prosecutor's previous inaction no longer hold up.
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I'm not taking a stand on whether they are guilty or even whether they should be charged (feel free to chime in on that, though). It's pretty clear Bush is going to have a tough couple years ahead, if the world took this election to mean that Bush and his pals are now free game.
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Makes sense. Looking forward to see the proceedings!
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It just means that Rummy won't be vacationing in Germany any time soon.
"It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem." - Malcolm Forbes
...Or will have to lie on each of his future job applications on the form where it asks "Have you ever been arrested or indicted on criminal charges?".
Not that he'd have a problem with the lying part, I guess.
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I imagine he'll be hanging out with Henry Kissenger in the "Can't go abroad because of the blood on our hands" clubhouse.
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Wouldn't it be interesting if Germany dropped in some special forces and renditioned Rummy to a secret prison somewhere and coerced a confession out of him?
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We'd probably declare war on Germany.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
you know, for a second I thought about getting a face mask and a baseball bat. After all it'd be a good chance to get rid of Chancellor Angie when you invade
. But then, she would just talk herself out of the trap and once your troops return to USA we lucky Germans will be graced with her being interim chancellor for the next ten years, because there is nobody else willing to take the job.
No hay banda!
"You know you've stepped over the line when Germany accuses you of war crimes." - Jay Leno
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come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
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Ouch, low blow.
I can't help but remember the Italian snatch and grab. I'd stay out of Europe entirely, were I these guys. Of course, the Secret Service escort will probably keep that off.
"Sometimes I go around saying, 'Kommisar Paulson has seized the commanding heights of the economy!'" - Paul Krugman, asked if recent changes to banking are socialistic.
Anyone want to lay odds on Bush giving pardons in case Congress tries to dig into this?
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"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
how rock can be commercial-free!
'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
Didn't Congress pass a bill indemnifying anyone involved in torture?
"Sometimes I go around saying, 'Kommisar Paulson has seized the commanding heights of the economy!'" - Paul Krugman, asked if recent changes to banking are socialistic.
I do not think Secret Service extends it operations to protection of a past cabinet member other than the President and VP. Such protection, of available in Rummy's case, would come DoD anyway, seeing how SS is an ostensibly civilian agency.
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I thought SS did VIP stuff overseas, but I could be wrong.
"Sometimes I go around saying, 'Kommisar Paulson has seized the commanding heights of the economy!'" - Paul Krugman, asked if recent changes to banking are socialistic.
If Germany did anything, they'd be bombed back into the stone-age. This is just pandering. Rummy is a putz and should have been fired two years ago.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
Yeah, but who'll be able to prove that Germany did anything, if they ship Rummy into some overseas detention center where the sun doesn't shine?
And besides, you see, you can't just bomb Germany into stone age. They're our crucial ally in GWOT and all that.
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Also, why is the US the only country that can randomly pick up people on the street, ship them overseas, and beat confessions out of them, all in the name of the "War on Terror"? If we can do it to everyone else's citizens, what is to stop them from doing it to our citizens? Nuking the country back into the stone age doesn't count.
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Why not? It's a hell of a disincentive.
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Glad someone else hasn't forgotten the death and destruction "Dr. Kissinger" wrought in his time.
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Hey, Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Price after all, so he is above all worldly criticism! Maybe Rummy should apply for one, too
Besides, we don't need no filthy carpet bombing to get back to the stone age. Our chancellor is right on track getting us there by legitimate means.
No hay banda!
True, true. But where did Rummy get his intel, anyway?
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He and Cheney cherry picked it from Cheney's own intelligence office.
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