RiffTrax: MST3K Continued
Has anyone else here tried out RiffTrax?
For those who haven't heard of the relatively new offering from Michael Nelson (head writer of MST3K and host of that show for most of its life), he's creating commentary tracks that make fun of moves that MST3K would never have been able to get the licenses to, like Top Gun, The 5th Element, and Roadhouse. For $1.99-2.99, you download a MP3 of the commentary track, sync it up with the DVD, and let 'em roll. There's a review up at TeeVee.org and a podcast interview with Michael Nelson there as well.
I just listened to my first track, for the mind-bogglingly awful Star Trek V, last night and laughed throughout. It easily measured up to a good episode of the television series. Having fellow MST3K'er Kevin Murphy (voice of Tom Servo) along made it even better. If you were a fan of the show, you won't be disappointed.
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There are several of these episodes that are just laugh out loud hilarious. One of my favorites is XXX, closely followed by Top Gun. Soon there's going to be a Matrix Rifftrax as well, which should be freaking amazing. The Roadhouse Rifftrax is also one of my favorites.
Even though the thought of watching Crossroads might make you twitch in one eye, check it out with Rifftrax. The worse the movie is, the funnier Rifftrax gets.
"Poor Eli Nooo... *child starts crying*"
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Wow, thanks for pointing this out. Glad to hear they're up to old tricks. It's funny, i put on Mitchell last night while we were cruising the Sunken Temple in WoW, hadn't watched any MST3K in a LONG time. What an awesome show that was.
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MITCHELL!
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
How did I not know about this until today?
Duoae wrote:
merphle wrote:
Steam ID
do you know about CINEMATIC TITANIC?
It's a similar concept, put out by Joel Hodgson (Joel, of course), Trace B. (Crow, Dr. Forrester), Frank Connif (TV's "Frank"), and Mary Jo Pehl (Pearl Forrester). Instead of sync'ing with a film, the CT productions are full video downloads.
From Wikipedia:
You can download an interview Joel did with the SOUND OF YOUNG AMERICA podcast a few weeks ago to hear more. I have always been a bigger Joel fan than a Mike fan, and always loved Trace and Frank, so I am much more excited for CT. I wish Kevin Murphy would be a part of this as well, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
EDIT:
Here's a link to the trailer for the first film.
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RiffTrax is pretty awesome. I actually rented Daredevil for it, which I never thought I would ever see myself do. Also, their Lord of the Rings track was great.
I'm like a flashing lightning and a rolling thunder, I'm like a stepping razor
For anyone who missed it when it came out, the Rifftrax for The Star Wars Holiday Special is excellent. I can't imagine anyone making it through that abomination without it.
They've also created a Rifftrax Player. It's a program you install on your computer that plays the DVD and the Rifftrax file at the same time. It works extremely well, making it far easier not only to start the movie/Rifftrax at the same time, but also to allow you to remain synced up even when pausing for a bathroom/phone break. It even lowers the volume of the DVD while the hosts are talking. Nice!
Also new are the video-on-demand options. They're mainly limited to the kind of 50's-era shorts they used to great effect in the early days of MST3K. At 99 cents apiece, they're a nice change of pace from the longer tracks.
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That was a good one. Netflix + MST3K = Win.
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Wakachickawakachicka..
I'm just talking about Mitchell.
Yet even then we ran like the wind,
whilst our laughter echoed under cerulean skies...
I just watched the Star Trek V one now. I NEVER laughed that much at an MST3K episode.
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Checked out Transformers and the Lost pilot episode out so far and it's been definitely worth it. 300, Bourne Identity and Raiders of the Lost Ark are already qeued up. I'm looking forward to the LotR gig, but I need to rent the theatrical version of Fellowship from some place for that purpose since I only have the Extended Edition - same for everyone else I know.
I'm not sure I understand the point of making fun of GOOD films.
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I guess the advantage is that you don't have to watch some horrid trash like Girl in Gold Boots at the same time as listening to their jokes. *shudder*
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Bah, any movie can be made fun of, unless it's like Schindler's List or something.
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Not saying you CAN'T make fun of something... just don't really see the point. MST3K makes crappy movies watchable with the jokes... RiffTrax takes some big budget crappy movies and adds comments, which makes sense. I just don't get the point in mocking something like RAIDERS. YMMV.
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Well, the point is that it's funny and makes you laugh. Even good movies do silly things, and it's funny to make fun of them. It can be even better than bad movies, because some of the more incomprehensible ones (like Manos: The Hands of Fate) are painful even with the commentary.
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Are you arguing that Star Trek V is a "good" film?
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No, see...
...Star Trek V goes in the "big budget crappy movies" category.
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Because it's funny.
ps. Other people on the internet find things funny that you might not.
Back on topic, I laughed harder at the Matrix Reloaded Rifftrax than I had at any Rifftrax before it. Amazing. Rifftrax just seems to keep getting better as time goes on.
"Poor Eli Nooo... *child starts crying*"
"Come on now, there's no need to make that kind of noise. It sounds awful and you'll upset other people." - Ionae from Spirit Engine 2
[sarcasm]Wait...wait... let me write that down.[/sarcasm]
Seeing as I've never listened to one, and seeing as how no one was actually DEBATING about whether or not the "trax" are funny...
Crap like ST5, Transformers, Matrix#2, etc., definitely deserve to be satirized. Seems like there are many more crappy films out there that would NEED a "riffing" to be watchable. Raiders, Bourne, etc., are already watchable. I get that these guys are aiming their "trax" at popular movies, since if they choose a crappy film they're actually limiting their buying pool.
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I'm probably committing some kind of geek sin here, but I couldn't stand the movies they used for MST3K. Most of them were so bad that even the mocking didn't make them watchable. I rented a bunch of them recently on Netflix and fell asleep during nearly every one. Watching something that I actually like and know get made fun of puts new value into the film. And there are lots of things that are already good and entertaining standing on their own. It doesn't mean they're not deserving of being made fun of in some way. I find Raiders just as entertaining as everyone else. Sure doesn't mean that the occasional witty joke about something in the film, or the exposure of a ridiculous Hollywood convention or cliche that just doesn't work anywhere else, isn't deserved or entertaining on its own.
It seems like you're assuming that the movie has to be so bad that you would never watch it without the MST3K commentary. I don't think the premise of MST3K, or RiffTrax has to be limited to that at all. I think it works better than ever on movies like this. I've watched, know, and even like some of these movies. It makes the jokes that much funnier. I could give 2 sh*ts about Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. It's easy to make and listen to pejorative remarks about something you don't care about.
Maybe you ought to.
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Between this and the Rick Roll thing, I feel like I ought to get my "Big Book of Things SommerMatt Doesn't Find Funny" out.
I'm saving a spot at number three for this particular post, too. Just in case!
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Again... where did I ever say this "wasn't funny"? Don't "straw man" me, bro.
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I'm not sure why you think that if we explain to you why they're funny that suddenly you'll want to get these and watch them all. As if explaining the joke makes it funny somehow.
Also in this thread every attempt to explain it to you has been argued with, so again I'm not sure why you think we'd want to explain it to you. It's comedy. Get your morning coffee and lighten up a bit.
"Poor Eli Nooo... *child starts crying*"
"Come on now, there's no need to make that kind of noise. It sounds awful and you'll upset other people." - Ionae from Spirit Engine 2
You said you aren't sure you understand the point of making fun of good films. So either you don't think it'd be funny or you don't understand the point of it being funny. Can you really blame people for assuming you meant the former?
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Interview with Mike Nelson about Rifftrax, posted over at Tleaves.com:
http://tleaves.com/2008/03/31/mike-nelson-interview/#more-1020
psu posts over here I'm pretty sure, peterb may as well. I first heard about Rifftrax over at Tleaves; based on their recommendation I had a bunch of friends over to watch Rifftrax: The Matrix. Well worth the $3.
Podunk wrote:
Haven't watched Spider-Man 3 yet since pretty much everyone I know complained about it. Well, I guess, now that this one is being covered by Rifftrax as well, I finally can rent the movie.
I just checked through their available tracks and they have 14 movies I own on that list... I love the concept, but I remember snoozing through many an episode of MST3K. Maybe it was the source material, or maybe because it seemed like they were stretching for things to say, and then half-heartedly chuckling over gags that didn't seem to have anything to do with what was going on in the movie.
Are these truly better?
Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.
Like you, I snoozed through a number of MST3K episodes, but there's something about watching a movie that you know and may actually like that changes the experience. A word of warning though, I've watched a few of these and afterwards felt like, "Holy crap, how did I ever like anything about this movie?" So don't watch any where they might tear apart a favorite of yours.
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