blasted! I am at work

I was skulking about on the TTLG forums when I saw this. I would just like to say that despite it being early version footage: EEEEEeeeeee! *drool*

I watched the vid and wasn't completely sold on it. It does have awesome water effects, interesting A.I interaction, and a very creppy atmosphere. I'll definitely ask this to my watch list!

On a nit-picky side note, did anyone else find it weird that it took more armor piercing bullets to kill the splicer women then it did regular anti-personnel bullets? One would think that the larger, stronger rounds would do more damage to her body then the others.

I thought armor piercing bullets were designed to stay in one piece on impact in order to get throught armor, and an anti-personnel round would deform and break apart on impact to cause more trauma.

OK, here comes the gun nut stuff...

Armor-piercing bullets have a pointed tip and are made of nice strong materials, as they are designed to, well, pierce armor.

JHP (jacketed hollow-point) have flat tips and are made of softer material.

As a result, when you hit a soft target with an AP round it tends to go right through, leaving a small hole. A JHP has a broader striking surface so it does more damage to a soft target on the initial impact and has greater resistance as it moves through the body, meaning it's more likely to stay in the body, which in turn means that all the energy of the bullet goes into the target (whereas if a bullet passes through the body it still has energy pushing it onward). The force of the impact also tends to make a JHP expand slightly, or "mushroom," making it extremely painful.

This is related to one of the reasons revolvers tend to pack more of a punch against soft targets than an automatic; they have a slower muzzle spin velocity, therefore aren't as effective at penetrating the target entirely. So the bullet stays in.

Hypothetical situation, if someone is shot in the shoulder by a .357AP round from an automatic, it'll usually leave a small hole at the entry point and a larger hole at the exit point. If they're shot in the shoulder by a .357JHP from a revolver, it'll look like their shoulder exploded.

Of course if you use JHP against an armored target it's much more likely to shatter or bounce off without penetrating at all. Also, bullets are a lot like footballs; if you just chuck them, they wobble all over the place. The more spin you give them, the straighter the path. So an automatic pistol will be more accurate over greater range than a revolver.

I'm sure they'll do something like that someday. For now, companies seem to have enough trouble getting one type of ammo to look right, nevermind two. Or if you want to get really technical, there are dozens of kinds of ammunition, each with their own slight signatures.

Maybe some day you'll be able to look at a corpse and say, "Hmm... That looks like 5.56mm caseless. Must be a Super Duper Truper around here somewhere."

I am excited about this one now. I can see why they were proud of the water, it looks more real than Coca Cola's Dasani.

The voiceover couldve been more polished in the movie, but I suppose they wanted it to be that 'casual, talk directly to the gamer' kinda feel. Pip Boy was there, just like you said, what a surprise.

It seems a natural extension of the old Looking Glass game design philosophy. I was always a fan of their games... Terra Nova still sits upstairs in 'my collection' along with a bunch of others.

This game has such a unique flavor to it, its good to see they have more marketing behind them, they will need it to get the word out and get gamers interested. Personally, I'm hooked. PC or 360, PC or 360.. oh thank heavens I have time to get over the dilemma.

Ken Levine scares me.

And was it just me, or did the Little Sister extract the Adam out of that corpse's crown jewels?

That looked pretty awesome. I'll be buying this the day it comes out.

System requirements will be bad, no?

You're counting the apparitions? Dude, that's like counting a cutscene as a non-hostile encounter.

Xbox 360 FTW...

I'm 100% playing this on my 360.. 50" Plasma.. Dark room.. surround sound.. seems like the perfect setup for this game.

Why don't you play it in your own underwater Utopian 1950's city full of mutants, Guru?

not enough hot chicks.. plus its probably humid.