Vista is going to cost how much?!?
Friday, September 8th, 2006 - 5:05pm
Taken from Gamespy news:
Windows Vista Business Edition - Upgrade: $199, New: $299
Windows Vista Home Basic Edition - Upgrade: $99, New: $199
Windows Vista Home Premium Edition - Upgrade: $159, New: $239
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition - Upgrade: $259, New: $399
The Ultimate addition is targeted at gamers. Anyone else think that FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS is just a bit on the pricey side for an operating system?
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No, I think $100 is pricy for an OS. I've never purchased OS software and unless I get talked into building my own PC, I probably never will.
Notice that this is the same pricing as XP, even now.
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I don't think I've ever paid for an OS.
Edit: Wait! That's not true. When I bought my first PC, it came with Windows 3.1 on 3.5" diskettes. So technically I paid for that as part of the computer.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
That's why I Action Pack it, 10 licenses for the price of one (plus 10 of Office and one of almost every server type). Before I subscribed to the AP I got the OS from friends that worked at MS and could get me the MS Store prices (30$ per OS).
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Hopefully we can all get away with waiting a year or two until the price comes down and the service packs are out.
Anyone know if a particular version is being recommended for gaming, or do they all have the same gaming capabilities? The ultimate edition is the price of a 360, I will not pay for that. I've never pirated software, but WTH are they trying to encourage folks to turn to the darkside?
For clarification, I will not pirate Vista.. I'll just do without as long as humanly possible and hope the basic version is all I need.
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OS software does not really deflate in value. Im having a hard time finding the original price for XP but as you can see from my links above, the current XP upgrade prices are identical to Vista's announced upgrade prices. The only bargain you'll find is having it come installed on a future PC you buy.
I think the price is meant to be shocking and deterrant. You're supposed to buy a new PC instead of upgrade your old one.
So this isn't really a new thing or a price hike.
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Nah but a flooded market on eBay with legitimate full (possibly OEM but not tied to a specific brand like Dell or whatever) copies of XP Pro sure is a nice way to pick it up for about half price. I waited until I really had to upgrade a few years after release when I was at uni and my uni network admins demanded it. Still, that was just my experience I guess. Much as I'd like to have full 64bit support and DX10 etc. I have heard nasty things about Vista so I don't mind getting a little out of date.
No, it's not. The Ultimate version is targeted towards people with more money than sense.
As far as gaming-related features, "Premium" is what you're looking for. Even "Basic" supports DirectX 10, but I think the rest include a bit of software that tests your system power and how well it would run games, what could be improved, etc. Basic may include it too, not sure.
What I do know is that Premium includes all the fancy user interface features, like transparent menus and the other Aero features.
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No dude! The ultimate version will be totally rad. It will like, make that starcraft door noise when you minimize windows n'stuff.
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This was funny news to me when I heard it last week. My response? I bought an OEM copy of XP Pro for $150.
XP Pro has a 7 year support cycle after Vista is released. So that means that it's good (theoretically) for sometime into 2014. I only use Windows under VMWare on my Linux box, so that was the only context in which the whole Vista announcement made any difference to me. It made me upgrade to XP Pro so I would have *some* copy of Windows without having to have a separate computer.
I'm the kind of geek that, while I run Linux, FreeBSD, Windows and do all kinds of interesting things including running my own mail server, software engineering, etc. I'd rather have as little hardware as possible. I'd rather have one powerhouse computer that can virtually run Windows than a home network.
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Linux community, about now would be an excellent time to get DirectX emulation up to speed.
I shouldn't complain, really. MS offers its OSes for free download to students over here. Guess they figured, why fight it?
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DirectX emulation is kind of tricky when you're trying to reverse-engineer closed-source APIs, essentially. It's taken years and it's still not there yet. Not really the Linux community's fault. If DirectX was open or if developers used something cross-platform like Id often does, Linux boxes would be pretty sweet for gaming. As it is they're extremely niche at best.
And unfortunately you just KNOW that when the DirectX 10 games start coming out it's over for you Windows XP gamers. You'll have to go get a new Vista computer.
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Until Service Pack 3 comes out. The Publishers will demand XP be brought in line with DX10. Why publish a new software product if only the top 5% of consumers could even play it? Patches will be developed and it will be business as usual for another few years until the advanced hardware is a little more common and affordable.
But that would be my guess.
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Keep in mind most people get their OS with the PC, not many actually go out and purchase it seperate from the machine.
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eh, nevermind I guess.
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I thought there were issues with DX10 and XP. I could be remembering press releases that came from MS, so apply salt liberally, but somewhere in the back of my head something is saying that there are things that DX10 does that are extrememly Vista-specific.
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-on L4DThat was my understanding as well. Thus the reason I mentioned that DirectX 10 would no doubt end up being one of Microsoft's infamous "must haves" to force people to upgrade at some point.
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From what I understand DX10 works at a specific layer of the OS, one of the most core layers, so it is more efficient etc and is essentially hard-coded into Vista whereas it cannot be in XP because they'd have to rewrite a lot of XP's basic coding. Something like that.
Still, I'll bet Euro against Dollar that there'll be a long period of compatibility modes.
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Anyone who thinks games are going to be released any time soon as DX10-only is sadly mistaken.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Crysis is the only one at the moment, correct?
Quintin_Stone wrote:
lunabean wrote:This happened to me the last time. I had a windows 98 machine when XP released, but the cost of the upgrade to XP was a quarter to a third of the cost of a new basic computer. So I figured why spend the money on upgrading a slow machine? And I was glad I waited, because XP didn't offer me all that much more in functionality than 98 (I'm sure it's better, but I didn't notice anything substantial besides the faster boot).
"Crysis will feature out-of-the-box 32-bit, 64-bit, DirectX 9, DirectX 10, and multithreading support"
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=71460...
Like I said, anyone who thinks games are going to be released any time soon as DX10-only is sadly mistaken.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
These are retail prices right? I would assume that newegg and the like will sell OEM versions for much less with the purchase of a mouse or case fan.
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