What is Haakon's Next Step?
Continue Dating, Head to the UK and Work
29% (5 votes)
Marry the Lady, Head to the UK and Work
12% (2 votes)
Marry the Lady, Head to Ireland and Work
24% (4 votes)
Marry the Lady, Head to the UK and Study
6% (1 vote)
Drop the Lady, Join Military/Unnamed Government Agencies
24% (4 votes)
Drop the Lady, Continue Working in DC
0% (0 votes)
Marry the Lady, Continue Working in DC
6% (1 vote)
Total votes: 17

I'm just curious to get the GWJ vote on where I should head next. I'm in one of those periods where I reflect on my current situation and the next step that I should take.
Her visa runs out in February, and she would like to move closer to home, so that's a big factor in having us move over the pond. But that creates its own problems (visas, employment, etc.).
I like DC, but not really enough to stay here for much longer. February will be just shy of two years, and that seems long enough for me. The only thing that might change that is getting a job within the government. I feel like I should do that for the first-hand experience that I can carry with me for the rest of my career. But she's not thrilled to stay, really, based on her boss (rabid) and the distance from home (5000+ miles).
I'd like to go back to the UK for a doctorate in History, but overseas fees are ridiculously high, so it might be better for me to move there for three years, get 'Home' student status, and take the £6,000/year cut in fees.
So, any thoughts?
Quintin_Stone wrote:
If there was a thread on your situation I missed it. But this is what I did.
Get dumped, have exgirlfriend's new boyfriend harrass me (never knew why), join military and work for government agency, almost get sent to war zone but bangs japanese pair that can pass for twins, go on a ten year renaissance and bohemian lifestyle, get married have kids have huge dept facing layoff and screw off at work on GWJ. A pretty good run but not for everyone.
Go for their eyes boo
Wow. We could almost be brothers. 8/
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
You're looking at it. I normally keep my own counsel, but thought I'd see what the thinking public's response is.
As far as the rest of your plan goes, sounds like a good plan, Jedi, but I'm not sure she's going to dump me, and I love her too much to take that risk. Though the 'passing for twins' part sounds fun.
I just don't know what I want to do with my next step. I'm not sure this political/NGO work is for me. If I had enough sense, I would have been like Druid and become a park ranger, or went the natural sciences angle and worked for NASA, but I didn't. So I've got too many options. =)
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Nothing will serve you as well, IMHO, as living abroad. The perspective that gives you will be a boon for the rest of your life, even if you don't stay abroad.
Marrying isn't a decision best reached by concensus. I realize you made the question in jest, but that's a decision that can only be made by you. Not you and her, just you. When you're ready, you'll know it, and you won't need a vote. Then you just have to check in with her to see if she's ready (or past-ready, or so-ready-but-waiting-on-your-commitmentphobic-ass, or...).
The UK's job market is pretty different than US (I'm assuming you're American, for some reason), so if your in a specialized field you should obviously check that out pretty carefully. Income has a tendency to be lower, and cost of living higher (but remember that living abroad advice above!)
Ireland's economy isn't as strong as the UK's, making it a tougher job market. Unless you're a tour guide or a jockey, in which case you should be in good shape. And you can always jump on a ferry from Cornwall and visit Ireland for the weekend.
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Okay you can take me sincerely serious now. When I'm faced with like situations. I just look at like this. If it isn't an absolute yes, then I don't do it. If your heart isn't into a big choice then I feel you won't be committing to it. If you wanted to marry this girl then I would think there would be no question in your mind. When deciding to marry some one I concider a maybe=no. Decide what you want from her first, then decide what to do after that.
Go for their eyes boo
I can't agree more. Spent a year at Cambridge during my undergrad and did my Master's in European Politics at the LSE in London. I'd like to go back, but on one hand, I've already lived there and loved it. Maybe its time for somewhere new. But then again, I have the credentials that will count for something in the UK, and I can travel extensively from there.
Ireland's very active in the EU, though, so I would figure there would be some work there for someone like me. I'm working in Asian affairs at the moment, and want to shift back to European work before I'm too far into the mire and become an old, jaded China hand.
I think I could fairly easily translate my work experience into a government affairs consultancy or for an NGO in either the UK or Ireland. Earning money in pounds or euros would help in general, as most of my college debts are in dollars, as well. That would be using the exchange rate in my favor.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Since your incapable of making this major life decision for yourself, I have reached a solution based on your choices.
A majority of the choices, four of the seven, include the option "Marry the lady".
A plurality of the choices, three of the eight, include the option "head to the UK"
Only one of the choices include the option "and study".
Therefore your decision should be "Marry the Lady" "Head to the UK" "and work".
I'm bringing sexy back!
Thank you for your help, oh Magical Talking Frog. Your wisdom is only surpassed by the beauty of your lovely dance.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
You only live once. Follow the chick and then figure out what you want to do there.
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I get that its my decision alone to get married, and I fully intend to take my time to decide. The only thing is that it would make it easier to move countries. But hey, I'd rather not have a divorce on my hands just because its easier to get a visa. Ya feel me?
In response to the demands... Here she is. The Lady.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Dude, do you really want a bunch of strangers to make the biggest decision in your life for you? I can see it now.
Haakon: Baby, I think it's over.
Lady: But Haakon, you said you loved me.
Haakon: I know baby, but 43% of the voters on Gamers With Jobs advised me to break it off.
Lady: Come again!?
Haakon: Its the democratic way. You understand don't you?
Add a selection, "Continue Dating, head out of the country and Lawyeron gets the lady".
I'm bringing sexy back!
As if I'm going to actually take the advice?
Like Jakob pointed out, its mostly in jest. Just another sounding board to get a third opinion. She and I have talked about the career side of it, but haven't really mentioned marriage.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
This is the thing in this thread that intrests me.
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Just Kidding.
It's been 5 days, have you made a decision yet? I'm bored at work and my brain is not required.
McChuck wrote:
Well, part of this indecision has come about from me not knowing where I stand at my current job. We were supposed to have our annual reviews in January/February, until it was decided by our Pres that we needed to wait until a big funding project (Taiwan FTA-related) came through. That's not through yet, but the boss told me today that he and I will sit down next week and have a review regardless.
So if he offers any help with placement after this, it might narrow my options. If I get no help at all, it may affect the timeline or the course of it.
Regardless, it means that I really need to finish my own evaluation and know where I stand when I go into the meeting next week. So far, I only know that I have no desire to spend the next few years tied up here. The lady and I will have to have further discussions in the upcoming week.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Head to Ireland and work there. Get married while you're at it and that should help solve some of your issues. If you end up in Dublin, then check to see if the local FileNET office is hiring.
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The lady and I both liked the Ireland idea. Close enough for her to go home for the weekend if she wanted, but its still a new place for both of us. Don't know how well she would be received though... being English and all.
So I got a promotion today. Not a big jump, and it was assumed that I would be taking the job, so it wasn't exactly a surprise. But its a good step forward. One less thing to worry about, and an 11% raise. (Though 11% of very little is not much more.)
So, my opinion is that now's the time for me start putting out feelers for the next step. I'm going to toss an email out to a UK consultancy that has both a Sport and a Rural affairs specialization. Both are sectors that I'd love to work in, so maybe that will lead on to something else. Regardless, it would be good to get some advice about how consultancies in the UK work, and what the environment is like.
I figure I send a few more letters out and start scouring for possible openings, and maybe the road will lead on from there.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
I think that is a better reason than some of them that I have used for ending relationships!
So, I'm engaged now.
Short version: I stole her away from work early on Friday, and we headed here: http://www.laubergeprovencale.com
A bit of southern France in the Shenandoah River valley. If any of you are out that way, I highly recommend it. The hosts and setting were perfect, the rooms were spectacular, and the food was very, very good.
Proposed before dinner, and spent the evening trying to bring my heart rate down. I was only slightly less nervous when calling her Dad earlier in the week. I may post a picture or two of the ring, if anyone cares.
We've not decided on a date or venue yet. That's all still in the works. The rough plan is to have the wedding in the UK as her grandparents & great aunt would have difficulties with the travel required, but, like I said, we haven't decided on anything as of yet.
So part of the poll above is useless, but the issue remains the same. Now we just have to figure out what our collective 'next step' is going to be.
(Just so you know, I couldn't justify polluting the forums with another 'So I'm engaged now' thread when I have this perfectly serviceable one right here waiting! No matter how much I want to be like Legion & Fed...)
Quintin_Stone wrote:
This is the kind of thread that NEEDS to be revived when appropriate - threads where we get "the rest of the story."
Congrats, Haakon!
Ha! So far I'm trying to follow the "let her have whatever kind of wedding she wants" model, although it seems I'm actually getting points off for not offering enough of an opinion. It's a fine line we men must walk...
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Congrats, Haakon, that's awesome.
In commenting on a thread such as this, I always feel like I'm projecting what I'd want to do in the situation, which is not the same as what's best for you. Having said that, I'd moved over there in a heartbeat. Do it while you can, while you don't have kids or a job you love tying you down.
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You're not supposed to have AN opinion - you're supposed to have HER opinion. If you have an opinion that's contrary to hers, that's points off too.
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We've decided to get a clear idea of what we want out of the wedding itself, and then start the planning to see how feasible that is. I'm more of a 'big-picture' guy, so I like having a hand in all that, but little things like color and decorations I am leaving to her. She's kicked into super-overdrive planning mode, but I expect that to level off fairly quickly.
That's definitely the favored plan at the moment. I don't want to speak too soon to jinx it or invoke some kind of karmic retribution, but I'm definitely open to the option of moving over and working/living, possibly settling down. At least for a good stretch of time.
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Quintin_Stone wrote:
Congratulations!
Now change that thread title, so the Goodjer community can flood you with well-meant advice and congratulations. Garuanteed ego boost!
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Congrats, now get your ass to the UK.
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wordsmythe wrote:
Congratz Haak! To help you on your move to UK, feel free to send me all your toys and games
(j/k)
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