BF2 Patch Petition

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For those that are interested. I've never found this to be an issue, then again I'm not a "professional" BF2 player, just a lowly noob...

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http://www.bf2.se/petition/

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"If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once."
(Practical meaning: No more Squad Jumping)
Congratulations DICE, you have just spit in the face of the entire professional BF2 community. Ever since the first matches were played in BF2 players have jumped in and out of squads making the game play in BF2 both more unique and a lot faster then it otherwise would have been. The speed of the game is exactly what makes all the clans still play BF2 after almost a year. Now you want to remove one feature (yes, you heard it right, a feature not a bug!) that almost 100% of all professional players use in every single match!

We have never asked for you to take away squad jumping, and honestly did not think you would be so stupid to actually think about something like that. This WILL kill the clan community within Battlefield 2. Once the clan community falls the rest of the community will follow soon. Few of the fixes in patch 1.3 are asked for by big parts of the community – there are plenty of other things that the community wants much more. Sure it's a cool feature to request vehicle drops by the commander but no-one asked for that. How about fixing the many bugs in the game first?

What we demand is not that this fix is completely removed, but that this will be a server setting. Otherwise you will force a split in the entire community and making many, many, players (who are already now looking into other upcoming games) leave your game in disgust.

The supposed "official 1.30" patch list

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I thought the pro players had already moved on. I don't see why they can't make this a server setting rather than just remove it from the game. That said, this change would impact me 0.000%

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Yeah. Yawn.

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What we demand is...

I love it when crybabies make demands.

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I can't imagine how retarded the "pro" games are without this fix.

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I've never really thought about it. I thought that squads were all about teamwork, not just finding the closest spawn point.

NOTE: This is not a doodle bug.

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Listen, you do not - DO NOT- piss off the professional BF2 players. They will take out their retainers and beat you to death with them.

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I can't imagine how retarded the "pro" games are without this fix.

No doubt. Just imagine that the last thing they were up in arms about was dolphin diving being removed because it was a skill element of the game.

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WAAAAHHH DICE U HURT MY WIDDOO FEEWINGS!!1!!

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I didn't even know you could do this and now they're taking it away. I never get to anything cool. Life is so unfair.

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People do this often enough to get pissed it's going away? Huh. I mean, I guess it makes tactical sense to be able to pick and choose your spawn points like this. Apparently I'm just not HARDCORE enough to do it.

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I signed it. Just to see if it will have an effect.

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Clanners do this a lot.. I see it on a lot of pubs. If you join their squad you will see what I call "Squad cycling" where if the SL dies he leaves then comes back so that the spawn point is still alive. Basically this changes gameplay so that you have to kill the entire clan in one fell swoop rather than hunting for the SL. But it allows for a lot of interesting strategies, for example:

All you need to do is to get one man onto the island in Wake and you can spawn an entire squad, then one of them splits off, creates a squad, then 5 more people come in... instant army on a 12x12 match.

But this wouldn't affect my fun in any way. Thank god for TG, they ban this stuff from happening.

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It's a dumb change that'll hurt small squads of 2-3 people the most. No one ever complained about it and no one ever requested that it be changed. So I'm not sure why they decided that it needed adjustment.

For me and the guys I play with, squad-leader-cycling has always been a way for a small group of us to make a larger impact, especially when the rest of our team is useless and we need to sustain an attack.

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Now that I think about it, by being able to suicide, all the proposed fix would do is delay a player by 15 more seconds. Die, join squad, respawn, suicide, spawn on squad leader. It'll still slow things down, but I wonder if it will change the style of play in tournaments.

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I have never heard ANYONE complain about this. If it really bothers people, make it a server setting.

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Yeah, seems like a bug that they are now fixing.

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I never get this "we'll all leave argument." "Pro" players are hardcore gamers. Everyone, including EA, knows that hardcore gamers aren't just gonna jump ship after they've spent hundreds of hours playing (especially considering the rewards of ranked paly) without another game to go to. There's no other recent game similar enough to BF2 to entice the bulk of hardcore BF2 gamers to leave. Are we expected believe thousands of clan gamers will quit BF2, take down their servers and just leave the clan scene behind?

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They should really concentrate on bugs, not add "jeep drops" or remove the squad thing.

Red/blue tag bug (still see it)

I still have AT rockets going right through tanks.

Fix the damn net code you bastards.

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I'd really appreciate version 1.0 performance being reinstated. I reformatted awhile back and played a few rounds of classic 1.0 and the difference on my machine was astounding. I ran higher settings and got better frame rates. What they did to reduce performance so much I can only imagine.

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This was a dumb exploit and I'm glad it's being fixed. IT was never in the spirit of the game.

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How about they demand something useful, like unifying SF and BF2 so servers can run both.

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I find it impossible to believe anyone would leave squad Swampasm for any reason.

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talk about self righteous [edit: the petition tone - not SwampYankee =) ]

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SwampYankee wrote:
I find it impossible to believe anyone would leave squad Swampasm for any reason.

The other squads sometimes have snacks.