Oblivion Strategy Guide: Worth Buying?

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I usually only buy strategy guides for those rare games that offer big, explorable worlds with lots of side quests and easy-to-miss or hard-to-find interesting content. And even then, I don't consult them often. But Oblivion's apparent size and scope has me a little intimidated.

I never played Morrowind, but I remember thumbing through its absolutely massive tome of a guide, and I think that had I ever fully delved into the game, I would have purchased it. Assuming that I'm hooked by Oblivion, would a strategy guide be a wise or useful purchase? I'm curious as to what past Morrowind fans think. Did any of you purchase the strategy guide? Was it helpful? Did it enhance your experience, or take some of the fun out of exploration?

(I know that such information is usually available online, but with a game that's probably going to take up so much of my time and that I'm going to be playing on the 360, I'd rather have something I can keep next to the couch).

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According to Amazon, it's 368 pages, which is pretty nice. I usually don't buy guides, but I loved the guide for Daggerfall, so I was also considering this one.

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Everything I've read and heard suggests that it will be a lot easier knowing what to do next and where to go than Morrowind was. Personally, having a strategy guide on the couch is too tempting, if I'm going to break down and look for help I actually want it to be a bit of a hassle, so I know I REALLY need it

I prefer the joy of discovery rather than knowing what's over the next ridge or cave because I accidentally glanced at a map or paragraph while looking for some other hint.

I would hold off and play the game first, see if you really need it as you go. If you do buy one anyways, let me know how it is. If nothing else, I bet it's really cool looking!

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I think im gonna go ahead and grab it up. I may not need it for the main/faction quests but it will come in handy for the secret stuff (gamefaqs people scare me). Without the Morrowind guide I never would have found out about the pillow quest, the crazy merchant crab, or the meta-quest with the underground cave where you have to get the statue built.

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I'm thinking I'll probably pick it up and use it to clean up quests/etc. that I missed in areas that I've already been though. I did that with Wind Waker, and it worked pretty well.

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If nothing else, I bet it's really cool looking!

Yep. It's always irked me that developers don't release more concept art after their games come out. I love that stuff. In most cases, the strategy guides seem to be where you most often see the cool artwork, sketches of level design concepts, etc. I've thought of buying several just for that, but $20 for only a few pages worth of concept drawings, when I don't want all the walkthrough, seems like a little much.

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LobsterMobster wrote:
GameFAQs.

A great free alternative, but it'll take a good 2-3 months before someone creates a comprehensive guide. Still, can't beat free.

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If you are a junkie for the universe and for Bethesda I believe there will be chapters written by the developers about the process and the world. Not necessarily about the game but more about the whole process.

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You really shouldn't need it. But...

farley3k wrote:
If you are a junkie for the universe and for Bethesda I believe there will be chapters written by the developers about the process and the world. Not necessarily about the game but more about the whole process.

Yeah. What I've read in interviews with Pete Hines is that this guide is pretty much entirely produced by people at Bethesda, and that it is only edited and published by Prima, which to my understanding is a fairly unique thing in the world of strategy guide creation. He said that one of their goals was to have plenty of useful and interesting information in there even for people who didn't care for any help in exploring the world and completing quests.

Who knows how true this is, but if it really is the case I might actually consider picking it up.. except that the temptation to use the information for "evil" might be too great. We'll see...

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i am a sucker for strategy guides. I will most likely pick this one up, esp. if they include extra interesting information that is not directly OB related.

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Chum wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
GameFAQs.

A great free alternative, but it'll take a good 2-3 months before someone creates a comprehensive guide. Still, can't beat free.


Yeah, but those 2-3 months are an optimistic guess. I bought Morrowind half a year after the release, didn't exactly look closely, and still came up against problems not adressed in GFAQs. Had Morrowind not bored me so fast, I would have likely purchased my first guide, ever, with it.

And if I haven't seen further, it's because those bloody giants blocked my sight.

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Heck, I'm looking forward to exploring and hearing about others discoveries. I figure there will be a multi-page thread here dedicated to the joyous finds of Oblivion (with spoiler tags, of course).

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i dunno sheared, when everyone get OB, and if it turns out too be good, I think the forum maybe quiet for a long while

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LobsterMobster wrote:
GameFAQs.

hehe thats what I use as well.
I dont really like using guides though, it takes something away from the game in a way, for me anyways.
I will jump on Gamefaqs only if I just cant figure something out.

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The Morrowind guide was a fantastic piece of work. I used it to make sure that I was on track with quest sequences, and to uncover new spots in areas I had thoroughly explored. It also helped with the "find this book" quests, which were just a pain.

It was huge, and fine print. I loved it.

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Robear wrote:
The Morrowind guide was a fantastic piece of work. I used it to make sure that I was on track with quest sequences, and to uncover new spots in areas I had thoroughly explored. It also helped with the "find this book" quests, which were just a pain.

It was huge, and fine print. I loved it.

I'll echo Robear here. The Morrowind guide was a perfect companion to the game. If Oblivion, the game, matches up as well with Oblivion, the guide, then you'll never regret the purchase.

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I was talking to Pete Hines today and he had this to say about the guide:

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There are quite a few chapters that have to do with playing the game but aren't walkthroughs. Chapters for things like combat, creating your character, magic, stealth, and so on. Much more than Morrowind, which had almost none of that. So there is a good bit that isn't walkthrough, but a good portion of it is walkthroughs and maps as we have so much of that stuff it takes most of the space to cover it all.

There you have it!

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Thanks Certis. That is essentially what I had read elsewhere, but I couldn't find it again to quote it.

By the way, was this part of an intervew for the Press Pass?

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Nope, just a regular old ICQ conversation.

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Certis wrote:
I was talking to Pete Hines today

With so much speculation around this game I love official sources all the more. Thanks Certis.

I don't own a single printed game guide, but I will probably pick this one up as another kind of "relic" like the Collector's Edition swag. Put it on my shelf and thumb through the sections not related to quest lines, and maybe check out the walkthroughs if I absolutely have to. I'm in no rush to buy it, but I know I will eventually.

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Normally I would just go to GameFAQs, but this just looks to be so big that I won't have the patience to wait till someone writes one, or wade through all the text looking for the one little piece of information I need hiding in all that text.

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I dont think Ill buy it unless it has a lot of artwork. One thing I loved about the WoW collectors edition was the hardcover art book.

For information I dont think it can tell me much. In a game like this if I get stuck, Ill go do something else for a while and come back to it at some point. GameFAQs will have enough info by the time Im looking for things I havent done.

The only game guide I ever bought was back when they called them 'hint books' Kings Quest V was a little too advanced for my age so I pretty much let the book solve nearly every puzzle for me.

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Most of the enjoyment I got from Morrowind was just wandering around and discovering all the little nooks and crannies that the game had to offer. On the rare occasions when I had bought strategy guides for games it was always too tempting to "peek ahead" and see upcoming quests or to find that insanely unbalanced peice of armor- and that just sort of ruins the experience for me.

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I don't think I'll buy the strategy guide, partly for reasons list above and also because of the following:

Yesterday when running errands I stopped by the Gamestop down the street from my office because it is the closest game vendor that will receive the day-1 shipments of the game. I reserved Oblivion and was asked if I wanted the strategy guide. As I always do when posed that question, I declined. The manager who was taking my preorder looked at me with a wtf expression on his face and said "You're the first person who has preordered the game that didn't buy a strategy guide. Are you sure you don't want one?"

I responded "Definitely."

Begrudgingly he printed out my preorder confirmation and continued to give me that look (you know, the one that says "Damn you for lowering my sales attachment rate!"). Were it not for the fact that they will get the game in before the larger b&m stores, they wouldn't see a penny of my money. They definitely won't be seeing the additional $17 for a strategy guide I could do without.

Unless ... I decide to reenact a Seinfeld episode and decide to return the guide "for spite."

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I wouldn't buy the guide from EB or gamestop, for the exact reason that they try to con you for more money every chance they get.

Besides amazon.com has it for less anyway;)

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Damn, damn damn. I think I will pick this one up. Usually I don't get guides because of A: Gamefaqs and B: I'm self-aware enough to know that walkthroughs will make my experience less fun but I'm not self-controlled enough to always keep that from happening.

Still, I stalled out on Morrowind before I saw what the game can do. From what I've read, the genius of Morrowind was more in the world and less in the plot. (Not to say the plot was weak, but just not the biggest reason to play the game.) So if the guide will help me enjoy the world and any collateral plot-spoilage will be less damaging to my overall game enjoyment, I just may fork out my 17 ducats for the book.

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Or you could wait 2 months for the book's price to drop to $5.

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LobsterMobster wrote:
Or you could wait 2 months for the book's price to drop to $5.

What if cylons invades us before the price drops to $5?

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Then you might want to pick this up instead...

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