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Does anyone recall Pete's Wicked Winterbrew? Petes, a hearty beer, with nutmeg and rasberry. A Very tasty seasonal brew that after one winter of my enjoyment, was phased out. Now Pete's makes a winter seasonal called Wanderlust, a nice cream ale, but not quite the same taste experience.

I'm looking for suggestions for a nice cold weather beer. Nothing too heavy, I'm not a Guiness stout kind of guy.

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I hear they're coming out with Bud Female, which sounds like it might be your cup of brew.

Actually, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "seasonal beer" so I have nothing to contribute.

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Morrolan wrote:
Actually, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "seasonal beer" so I have nothing to contribute.

Yea, me neither. I did have some good German beer the other night, and it was pretty cold out. What qualifies a beer as "cold-weather?"

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Morrolan wrote:
Actually, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "seasonal beer" so I have nothing to contribute.

Sam Adams has a winter lager, as well. It'll get you drunk!

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JubelAle by Deschutes Brewery is a really tasty winter brew. I don't know if it's available back East, as it is an Oregon brew.

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A number of companies put out a winter seasonal beer, some spiced like Pete's Winterbrew, others just heftier versions of their usual offerings. A few American examples are: Pyramid Snowcap, Boulevard Nutcracker (a local favorite where I live), Goose Island Christmas Ale, Anchor Our Special Ale, Saxer Three Finger Jack Frost, Bell's Winter White Ale, Otter Creek Alpine Ale, and Saint Arnold Christmas Ale. The Brits also have a long tradition of making winter seasonals, like Young's Winter Warmer and Sam Smith's Winter Welcome. Unibroue (from Canada) even puts out Quelque Chose, a strong cherry ale meant to be heated before drinking.

I made up a new recipe beer this year, Cherry Dubbel, which I intend to put on tap next week.

You might even check out what's being offered by the big breweries--it's not that they're incapable of making decent beer, it's that they don't because it's not as profitable. In past years, Coors has put out a pretty fair Winter Beer, which is nothing like their usual water-in-a-can. They used to change the recipe every year, and it was hit-or-miss as to how good it was. I haven't tried it in several years, though.

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Morrolan wrote:
I hear they're coming out with Bud Female, which sounds like it might be your cup of brew.

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I didn't know there was such a thing as a "Winter Beer". I like to keep some Guiness Stout at the Hotel fridge. Though lately since I get free Bud Lite at the new hotel, I kind of quit buying beer. Unless I can expense it when I go out to eat.

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I pretty much thought that was common knowlege, the brewing of heavier beers during wintertime. Odd how I'd know that given I am not what you'd call a beer connoisseur.

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I'm not a big fan of most seasonals - it seems like brewer-talk for "I'm going to try something really weird, see if it catches on!"

But what I do like in the winter is standard porters, as well as darker Belgians (I'm looking at you, Duchesse du Bourgogne!).

And let's not forget mead, mulled wine, and honey liquors (e.g. Krupnik). Nothing quite like a strong, sweet shot to warm you right up!

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Dundees Honey Brown is about as far as I have gone in that direction.

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Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale is pretty tasty. Corsendonk Christmas Ale is yummy but a bit harder to find. Delirium Noel is good but a bit sweet and will knock you on your ass.

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Swampy, for a good winter beer I recommend the Anchor Porter and the Anchor Christmas Ale. Anchor is distributed nationwide, so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding it. A good liquor/beer combo store will carry it, as well as any upscale grocery, such as Whole Foods.

doihaveto wrote:
But what I do like in the winter is standard porters, as well as darker Belgians (I'm looking at you, Duchesse du Bourgogne!).

That is one of the strangest and most interesting beers I've ever had. I would hesitate to compare it even to other Belgians, for fear of not doing it justice! I wouldn't describe it as one of my preferred winter beers, per se; for in my opinion, the criterion for a winter beer is how well it pairs with wintery foods like stew, roasted meat, etc., and Duchesse is so damned odd that I don't think I'd want to pair it with anything at all. But I will say that it is among the better beers I've ever tried, and I've tried many.

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That is one of the strangest and most interesting beers I've ever had. I would hesitate to compare it even to other Belgians, for fear of not doing it justice!

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I'm not a beer connoiseur meself, as I don't need to be: any beer is good round here

Leffe (dark or blond) is a fine beer that goes with almost any winter recipe Lobo. Here it's a very mainstream beer, but I don't know if it's exported much.

Strekos wrote:
Corsendonk Christmas Ale is yummy but a bit harder to find.

Is Belgian too, haven't even tried it yet

Chimay rocks, Westmalle rolls, Duvel rules (not good with food though imho), Hoegaarden Grand Cru is mighty fine too. In normal circumstances right under Kriek in the lady beer ranking, during the winter they add something to the percentage AND some taste to boot

But as I said, dunno about export.

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dejanzie wrote:
Leffe (dark or blond) is a fine beer that goes with almost any winter recipe Lobo. Here it's a very mainstream beer, but I don't know if it's exported much.

I've not had the Leffe dark, but DrunkenSleipnir will attest to the fact that I'm very fond of Abbaye de Leffe blonde.

You're right about the beer in Belgium, too. Hands-down, no doubt about it, the absolute best beers in the world are Belgian. Oh, to live in a place where something like Leffe is considered mainstream!

Have you had Guldenberg, by De Renke brewery? That's one of my very favorites. That and Delirium Tremens. Man, I need a drink!

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Lobo wrote:
dejanzie wrote:

You're right about the beer in Belgium, too. Hands-down, no doubt about it, the absolute best beers in the world are Belgian. Oh, to live in a place where something like Leffe is considered mainstream!

Have you had Guldenberg, by De Renke brewery? That's one of my very favorites. That and Delirium Tremens. Man, I need a drink!

Hell yes! I also love that there are very few "categories" of beer in Belgium--a large number of them are just considered specialty beers, meaning they fit no style except their own. They are also super fun to brew, and in my experience turn out well almost always. More than half of the brewing awards I've won have been for my renditions of Belgian brews.

The last time I was in Europe I made a point to extend my trip for a week so I could drink myself silly in Brussels. I hit as many bars & breweries as I could, and of course I didn't even make a dent in what was to be had. I have tons of great memories from the trip--like getting smashed one afternoon with Jean Van Roy, brewer and son of the owner of Cantillon. My favorite place, however, was a small bar in Mechelen called Den Stillen Genieter (The Quiet Enjoyment?). Wonderful place, huge list of beers even for a Belgian bar, with vintage Trappists and lambics dating back to around 1980.

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Reading this thread reminds me of how I'd like to like beer. Sadly I don't really like the taste of any alcholol. COuple that with the price and side-effects and you end up with a teetotal gamer.

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Yon Rabbit wrote:
...like getting smashed one afternoon with Jean Van Roy, brewer and son of the owner of Cantillon.

I friggin' love Cantillon!

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This thread is making me . I've said it before, but I'll say it again: all of the world's problems could be solved by giving me Belgian beer.

Since Spynavy's only looking for a good cold weather beer, rather than specifically seasonal beers, I recommend stouts and porters; I know you said you don't want really heavy beers, but there's just something about a dark, "chewy" (for lack of a better word) stout when it's ten below outside, a blizzard is raging, and you're bundled inside with a blanket. For cold weather, my favorite are the chocolate stouts, Rogue and Young's being the best I can think of, but Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout is a good all-purpose brew that will always make your winter a little happier.

I also second the suggestions for Anchor and Otter Creek beers. I've never had a bad beer from these breweries.

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Samichlaus Bier. I've got a vintage 1997 bottle of it. it's sort of like drinking a chocolate flavoured hard liquor substance. brewed once a year, on December 6th. 15% alcohol and it feels every bit of it.

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Reading this thread reminds me of how I'd like to like beer. Sadly I don't really like the taste of any alcholol. COuple that with the price and side-effects and you end up with a teetotal gamer.

I seem to only be able to stand the taste of cheap beer. I have tried sam adams and all those other fancy beers, but I just don't really find them tasty. It's not that I find cheap beer all that much better tasting, it just gets the job done easier. If they could come up with a Coca Cola product that would get me drunk with no alcoholic taste I would stop drinking beer altogether. I can stand the price and the side-effects the morning after.

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Try Saranac's Caramel Porter. I may have a few bottles left by the time you get down here after the holidays. Harpoon also makes a Winter Warmer along the lines of what you describe, very nutmeg no fruit though.

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Reading this thread reminds me of how I'd like to like beer. Sadly I don't really like the taste of any alcholol. COuple that with the price and side-effects and you end up with a teetotal gamer.

I seem to only be able to stand the taste of cheap beer. I have tried sam adams and all those other fancy beers, but I just don't really find them tasty. It's not that I find cheap beer all that much better tasting, it just gets the job done easier. If they could come up with a Coca Cola product that would get me drunk with no alcoholic taste I would stop drinking beer altogether. I can stand the price and the side-effects the morning after.

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Looks like Zima could get you girl drink drunk.

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I hate the fruity flavored beers. Yucky poo! I love a good IPA and darker beers. I need a beer to have some flavor. I can barely stand to drink domestic beer. When I was in England, there was a local brewer that made a great bitter. There is nothing like fresh beer. Well, I take that back, I went to the Coors brewery in Golden, Colorado and had their fresh beer. Still tastes like water.

Oh, and Ultra beer, that low-carb crap. Who ever thought of that should be killed. Nasty stuff.

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Ouch.

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Flat Tire is the best beer I've ever had. If it was only sold in the east/midwest, I'd be a happy camper.

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If you can get it where you are, you should try the Leinenkugel's seasonal beers. Leinie's Big Butt Doppelbock sounds right up your alley, very dark and heavy. And they make an Apple Spice seasonal beer that you might try, since you liked that other spicy one. And they make a Berry Weiss, if you want to try the berry beer.

Visit their site: http://leinie.com/beers2.htm and take a look at their selection. Elysium always adored Leinie's beers, before he developed his whole "dark beers cause migraines" affliction. Poor guy. He'd still kill to have one of their Amber Bock beers again.

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I love the Christmas beer's. Something I didn't know exsisted till I lived in Denmark for a few years (too bad they don't export them to the US).

As for American Winter Beers (too PC to call them Christmas beers) Brooklyn Brewery has just come out with one that is very tastee. I didn't really like the Sierra Nevada one, and the Sam Adam's is better than there normal beers but not great. Lots of the other local breweries seem to be making them these days but haven't had the time to really try them out.

As for Belgium Beers try to get ahold of a Westvleteren, doesn't matter if its the Abt 12 or the Extra 8, both are very very good. Nice heavy rich full taste.

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