WOW Horde Lifestealing!
OMG! We now have Enchant weapon - Lifestealing! While not as valuable as the Crusader enchants(Branes U tha man!!) it is 10 times harder to actually get! I will be dumping money into skill-ups to be able to learn this. Only 40 more points to go, hopefully have this done today! So here's the thing:
1. Who wants some upper level enchants on gear? (I need the skill-ups!) Any level Toon welcome!(Alliance need not apply! 
) I can do these free to really cheap as Pad, Omusa, and others have been supplying me with some leather for mats!! Hit me up tonight for a list of enchants I will be doing!!
2. What should I charge non-guild peeps for this enchant? I hear Mats + 20G is a very good price for people looking for this enchant. I was really thinking (myself, I might be crazy), that I should just do for mats (6 large Brillant shard, 6 Essence of undeath, and 6 Living Essence) + one addition mat of each kind (about 17G worth of mats). Theory behind this is that every 7th enchant can go to guild member completely free! And, by spamming will enchant for 7 of each item, noobies won't pst me about the "OMG U thief!! How can u charge 20G for pushing a button!!! HACZOR!!" Most noobs just don't understand enchanting, and only see the 20G profit from pushing a button.
PS. Thanks for dragging me along last night!!! Really thought I would never ever seen this pattern again! (First time it dropped, I wasn't an enchanter and passed on it, who knew it was soo rare?) A less than 1% drop from 1 of 6 mobs in the world, and they are in only found in scholo.
PPS. Sorry for rambling on, Im just so stoked!
"Violence is the last refuge of a little mind", ah screw it, Me smashy smash!
Well I charge 30g-50g (depends how I am feeling at the moment) + mats for the +22 intellect. There are always those people who don't want to supply the mats, and I love em for it. I sold three of these to people for 200g heach. Fun. 20g + mats for lifestealing might be a bit high. Having said that you can charge whatever you want and just have to adjust to meet the market, with in reason. Screw free.
Oh, and people who complain about the cost? I charge them 100g + mats. Screw asshats.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
Congrats! It was great fun last night. I am glad it paid off. As for enchants, I know my gal could use a bunch. Happy to help ya with that skill up.
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I'm full-up on enchants at the moment, just bought a bunch to cover armor upgrades a week ago. This talk on pricing and charges, though, makes me wonder if I'm tipping too low. I supplied the mats for my crusader enchant and the guy just asked for a tip, not a set price. I gave him 15g for it. Had the same situation with Lucent. I supplied the mats for 4 enchants...boots (stamina), bracers (stamina), gloves (strength), and chest (+100 health) and gave him a 20g tip for all of them. It seemed to be generous enough, but is that reasonable or am I a cheap-ass tipper?
I'd like to be tipping on the generous side since I believe the peeps who have spent their time, energy, and money to max out a skill deserve to be paid for their services.
WoW Baelgun: Omusa, Spits
Nice Nekar, good find! I personally love lifesteal, over crusader or any other enchant for a meleer. I have a guy on Alliance side that does them for me, so far three weapons, and I've tipped him 15g. 10g the first time when I did two, 5g for the third on a seperate occurence. That might be on the low side, but I've been broke both times and he doesn't care.
+22 int on Alliance side was going for 285g about a week ago. 50g if you had mats.
EDIT: Of course we have two 300 enchanters in GWJ Alliance, and we only tip them with trash BOP blues.
I'd say you're tipping high, Slambie. I tipped Lucent like 3g last week for Crusader and he was fine with it. The only enchants that I know of that are premium enchants right now are lifesteal and maybe whatever is coming out of BWL.
You can't make somebody love you, but you can buy a bigger television.
I wish I had the rep with the Thorium Brotherhood to get +22 int. I could sell that like a mofo.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
You would think so..
I have a loooong way to go to get a return on my investment.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
Sigh, I only wish I could learn that... I have been sitting at at 150 enchanting for quite some time, The expert trainer will not give me an upgrade. Anyone have any ideas?
" Did my love gun hit you?" -Gaald to Certis while playing Sins of the Solar Empire.
You have to go to Uldaman.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
Sigh. I'm not even friendly yet. Ironically, I had already made it to honored with the furbolg, so I had that one right off the bat. I'm close to revered, even though it gains you nothing (other than making me sad, and a FSCKTON of mageweave).
For 150->225? For the horde, the advanced trainer is in Sun Rock Retreat. The chick in Uldaman gets you 225->300.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
I have lifestealing on my hunter's twin Dawn's Edges, and I got those done by advertising I had the mats & would tip 5g each. It took a while to find people to do it, but they did, so I figured that was enough. I think it is the best enchant for a hunter, since you can use mobs to heal up while your pet holds aggro. I often refer to single mobs as "healing potions."
Since then I've hit 300 enchanting on my priest alt, and I would probably offer more in the Slambie range now that I understand the true costs involved. I'm far from breaking even on the cost to hit 300, and will only enchant for mats now with a specified fee. The market is very competitive, and all the enchant spamming makes people think you make way more money at it than you do. It is cheaper in the long run to simply buy every enchant you will ever need than to level up enough to do them yourself.
I basically did it to support my guild though, and getting to 300 requires lots of help. They get enchants for mats of course, and I do almost all enchants for the lowbies for free. A couple of runs through Deadmines or Scarlet Monastery and I can enchant a couple of outfits for people, plus people constantly send me trash greens like shammy gear. I think every caster in the guild has (or had) an Illusory Rod with +3 Intellect on it. We have another 300 enchanter who is a 60 mage, so he's been busy getting faction to get the other enchants. We all pitched in the gathered items he needed, like Dark Iron Residue and Kingsblood, since we all want someone who will do those enchants cheap. I also had people escort my level 35 butt to the Uldaman enchanter twice.
"Raise high the black flags, my children."
-- Gebhard von Blucher.
So you guys charge for enchants, even if the mark, I mean, customer brings all the mats? I hadn't been doing that.
I think the main thing here is that i need to join a bigger guild. Filled With Pie just isn't cutting it these days.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
Thanks found him. He was not exactly waving a flag, so it took a bit.
" Did my love gun hit you?" -Gaald to Certis while playing Sins of the Solar Empire.
Yeah, he's kind of off the beaten path, so to speak.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
A bit longer til I can do the Lifestealing enchant(hopefully I can do this by the weekend). After leveling from zero to 250 skill points in enchanting, in under 4 hours and making tons of money, I was under the illusion that the last 50 points would be just as easy! I was terribly wrong, thanks for reminding me of this Nospleen!
It took me about 3 hours and 75G of cash and 75G of mats to level from 250 to 275, UGH! Yes, I could have "broke even" and made those 25 skill-ups, if I wanted to spam in ORG and spend the two weeks of real time enchanting at cost + tip. If I didn't have a guild helping me and already have a skill at 300 (LW), skilling up to 275 would have cost me over a 1000G. I can now really see why people are asking for all mats +heavy tip for enchants. I just couldn't imagine how tuff this profession would be if I actually started it at a low level, maybe 2000G (or more?) to skill level 275. Enchanting is by far my favorite profession, but here's a bit of addvice for low toons, DON'T do enchanting!!!
PS. Can anyone make an ARCANITE ROD for me? I will supply the raw mats and might even throw in a tip
"Violence is the last refuge of a little mind", ah screw it, Me smashy smash!
Whenever I try to level up enchanting fast I go quickly broke. Tips?
" Did my love gun hit you?" -Gaald to Certis while playing Sins of the Solar Empire.
Nekar, I can make you an Arcanite rod no problem if you have the mats. No tip necessary
Kyena - Warrior - Blades of Vengeance Guildmaster - WoW Blackhand server
Don't know if this will work for leveling you up cause 1. I have leatherworking @300(main source of my mats) and 2. I'm a level 60 Druid. But here's what I did.
1. Make tons of leather armor (greens only).
2. Make tons more leather armor (greens only).
3. Dis-Enchant all that leather armor for skill ups to 50 or so.
4. Sell all the essences at AH. Here's were the profit is!
5. Keep all your dust for enchants.
6. Do enchants, using dust only, for skill-ups I just kept doing the same enchant over and over on the same items, til it gave me a skill-up 1 out of 4 times.
7. Take some of your AH profits and train at vendor.
8. Repeat until level 225.
9. Stealth into Uldaman instance and train from level 225 to 250.
PS. Every guide I read said to use tailoring to make the greens to DE into mats. But as I already had leatherworking(LW) I used that. Also from browsing Tailoring it looks to me as LW has a much better return from disenchanting into mats. Maybe BlackSmithing has an even better return?
"Violence is the last refuge of a little mind", ah screw it, Me smashy smash!
The reason people say do tailoring is because basically you get most tailor mats "for free", in other words you don't have to have a gathering profession. You can't exactly be a LWer or BS unless you skin or mine, respectively. Unless of course you are wealthy enough to just buy all your mats.
As a leatherworker and enchanter, I buy LW mats at the AH. I can then DE the items made thru LW and sell the mats for a hugh profit. OK, here is my really big secret! I can make wicked leather armor for very cheap and it usually has a hugh return in mats onced I DE it. The very first thing I did once I learning Enchanting was to make a few wicked leather headbands(cost about 1.5G to make), now these sell really good at the AH for about 2.5G and up(nice profit, but the market quickly bottoms out on these items). As I had no skill points in enchanting, I was going to DE these for skill-ups and take a small lose. Imagine my surprise when it DE'ed into 3 Greater Eternal Essences! Yep, spent 1.5G on LW mats and got 15G worth of Enchanting mats! Now that was very lucky! Funny thing is all the wicked leather armor items DE into more money, in Enchanting mats, that it costs to buy the mats to make them, over 90% of the time! Yes, 1 out of ten times I break even, but ya can't have everything? Nospleen even has a secrert money maker for DEing(don't worrry my lips are sealed, for now
) As it really takes no skill what so ever and very little time and money to make big profits from DEing items, no wonder Enchanters have been calling for a NERF to DEing! Thats where u make money to support the Enchanting side of the profession. Yes I have made a fortune using the above method, but I have spent that and much more leveling actual enchanting skill up so I can charge mats +20G for a very rare enchant to people I don't know and who really want them.
"Violence is the last refuge of a little mind", ah screw it, Me smashy smash!
Nekar, I could really use a weapon enhance like life-stealing. And most of my armor is unenchanted. Let me know what I need to bring along to get buffies and I'll look you up in the next day or so.
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Vampires.
If I didn't drink, Crom would laugh and cast me out of Valhalla when I die. Peer pressure I can handle, but not when it comes from Crom. -Lobo
Mats need for the lifestealing enchant. Yes mats for this are very costly, I would suggest this only for your end-game weapons! But a level 1 toon would really rock with this
"Violence is the last refuge of a little mind", ah screw it, Me smashy smash!
Im sure there is a quite high minimum level for the lifestealing enchant.
Being fangoriously devoured by a gelatinous monster.
Are there any min levels for enchanting? I know one of my alts got a +100 armor to his cloak from some generous guy just trying to skill up.
WoW Blackhand Alliance
70s: Nukanatrix (M), Braun (P), Boreali (Warrior)
Erissar - 67 Druid
Grumbar - 65 Hunter
Jergen - 65 Paladin
Heckfire - 63 Warlock
Not that I'm aware of.
I put fiery weapon on a pair of lvl 15 daggers for the hell of it. Fiery is several tiers under lifestealing, but the principle is the same.
The main reason not to do that is simply that the char will out grow the weapon quickly, thus completely wasting the resources used for the enchant.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
+100 armor? whoa. I hadn't seen that one. The highest one I knew about was +70 armor, and that takes some sizeable mats.
Skriss: lvl 70 undead mage - Bloodhoof
Kyrator: lvl 63 night elf rogue - Blackhand
Thadryn: lvl 70 draenei mage - Blackhand
That's because it doesn't exist. +70 is the biggest. I know because I got all fired up when I saw +100 and checked.
You can't make somebody love you, but you can buy a bigger television.
Okay I just loaded that character up and it's +50. Point being: I'm a bad witness.
WoW Blackhand Alliance
70s: Nukanatrix (M), Braun (P), Boreali (Warrior)
Erissar - 67 Druid
Grumbar - 65 Hunter
Jergen - 65 Paladin
Heckfire - 63 Warlock
Twinking with enchants is fun. Same for alchemy. I'm working some on a warrior (mostly so I have a better idea of how they work and can know when I'm justified in yelling at warriors while playing my priest) who is up to 17th level. Having +5 on his weapons, +5 or +7 stat boosts on his gear, and any good potion he can drink sure makes things easier. I don't do the very high end stuff on his gear though, there is a world of cost difference between +5 and +7 damage, or +7 and +9 stats.
"Raise high the black flags, my children."
-- Gebhard von Blucher.