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My english paper's topic last night was to defend, challange or qualify a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. The quote was "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen, philosophers, and divines." I thought about the basis I should use for this article, and I found something that fit. Please comment, I recieved a 7 on this paper (which is equivalent to a 95%) and my teacher was very intrigued by our forums.

Routine, the English word used to describe a known chore or procedure, comforts me knowingI have a group of guidelines and people to fall back upon, and although it's abhorred by "artists" and "philosophers" who desire change with their constant changing lifestyle due to "earthly baggage" I question Emerson's sporadic philosophy.

For the past few years I considered mself a starving artist that no one could understand because my thoughts were to complex for the human mind to see without the use of meditation or some sort of hallucinogen. Once I realized that my "muse", I use that term as loosely as possible, was nothing more than my inspiration pairing to something that stimulated my emotional adrenals, my view on the days lightened significantly. With this new free of megalomania, which I liked to call "enlightenment", I found myself evolving into an internet rat, and I joined a faithful organization based on proving how pointless labor is, I became a GWJ, a "Gamer with a job". The gamers with jobs are a small underground forum website dedicated to online games, game discussion and general satire and applying routine hilarity to a hectic lifestyle.

Finding the secret to ridding onself of the "hobgoblin", which is a villain in Spiderman comics, as labeled by Mr. Emerson is discovered through living sporadically philosophizing, and living life by every moment, but at the same time Mr. Emerson criticizes the public for earning a living, which is what Gamers with jobs are required do to, otherwise they would be gamers with are unemployed, but as a GWJ one does not enjoy his job, if on liked his work it wouldn't be called a job. The "foolish consistency" which statesmen, philosophers and the divine adore directly insults me, not only as a divine respecting individual, but as a GWJ who discusses news articles and other "wordly baggage".

I enjoy consistency knowing I have people to come home to everyday to joke with, laugh and argue with in a somewhat civil manner. Mr. Emerson would have agreed with our "philosophies" about living without enjoying the work given by "the man", except we do have routine, we play World of Warcraft every night after work.

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God help you if your prof actually comes to the site and stumbles across the HawT Gamer Chicks thread or anything that Pyro''s ever posted.

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Hello Mr. Prof. I would like you to know that JD did not participate in any anal sex discussions, that I am aware of, except for that one, but I think he was not in favor of it.

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a small underground forum website

sh*t, we''re underground? I could''ve been using this to pick up chicks this whole time!

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I just became ''unemployed'', does this mean I can''t post anymore?

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a small underground forum website

sh*t, we''re underground? I could''ve been using this to pick up chicks this whole time!

Does this mean I should be wearing more black or something? I''m not sure how to act with my new underground status.

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"Sanjuro wrote:
God help you if your prof actually comes to the site and stumbles across the HawT Gamer Chicks thread or anything that Pyro''s ever posted.

Ummm, dont you mean Taco?

Great article BTW JD.

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I just became ''unemployed'', does this mean I can''t post anymore?

No, of course not. It means you have to commit sepukku.

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End of Line.

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I just became ''unemployed'', does this mean I can''t post anymore? icon_sad.gif

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"JDRobZombie wrote:
Get his license revoked, book ''emboys!

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I''ve thought about this thoroughly, and I dont understand.

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He corrected your prose, thus emulating a copyeditor, one of the most thankless jobs in the world.

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I just became ''unemployed'', does this mean I can''t post anymore? icon_sad.gif

Get his license revoked, book ''em chief!

I was never employed in the first place. Can''t arrest me I have seniority.

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"JDRobZombie wrote:
I recieved a 7 on this paper (which is equivalent to a 95%)

Which explains why he''s an English teacher.

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Oh yeah, so if you don''t do anything on this assignment, which warrants a 0, you still get 60% of your grade. I wish my english teacher was that easy.

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Or perhaps he grades papers a little differently than most are used to

I had several english teachers that didn''t use the 100 point grading scale for anything.

They listed how many total points you were going to have an opportunity to earn during the year. I believe my senior year in high school the total was like 540-something points. Some papers/test/etc were worth as little as 10 points. The two extremely large projects we had were worth 50, and were exhausting to complete the correct way. There were of course.. extra credit assignments as well. I did a bunch of those earlier in the year and was able to completely skip a couple of the bigger assignments in the last quarter of the year and still get an A.

End of the year you took your percentage of the total and that was your grade.

Actually, I don''t think I had any teachers in my last two years of high school that used the typical 100 point scale, except the math teachers.

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The ""foolish consistency"" which statesmen, philosophers and the divine adore directly insults me, not only as a divine respecting individual,

Perhaps a minor point to pick up on, and one perhaps you were already aware of. A ""divine"" to Emerson should be read in the English dialect as a doctor of divinity, typically from Oxford or Cambridge. i.e. A theologian.
The quote I''ve always taken as meaning, is an attack against rationalism and the need to justify common sense through the use of deductive reasoning. By consistency he means making unnecessary pedantic scholastic arguments for the blindly obvious, so that you make an argument for the sake of pleasing your collegues instead of actually making a persuasive point. Something which we know academics to be guilty of from time to time.
Thats what I thought anyway.

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"*Legion* wrote:
"JDRobZombie wrote:
I recieved a 7 on this paper (which is equivalent to a 95%)

Which explains why he''s an English teacher.

Does this mean the scale goes from 0 to 7.368?

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SHE grades on a scale of 0-9, the percentage grade is kind of whatever she feels like giving you at the moment. The 0-9 is the part that really counts in the end, the percentage is just what shows on your grades. a 8 or 9 is considered publishable.

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Would it be horribly rude to ask what level the class is?

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"Fletcher1138 wrote:
Would it be horribly rude to ask what level the class is?

Advanced Placement Language and Composition

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"JDRobZombie wrote:
"Fletcher1138 wrote:
Would it be horribly rude to ask what level the class is?

Advanced Placement Language and Composition

Thanks. Yeah I think you''d mentioned that it was an AP class. I was asking about grade-level, though. I should have been more clear.

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"JDRobZombie wrote:
SHE

Well that explains the math too.

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Thanks. Yeah I think you''d mentioned that it was an AP class. I was asking about grade-level, though. I should have been more clear.

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Okay, JD. You took the first step of putting your writing on display for others to read. There''s nothing wrong with that, of course, but the second step -- constructive criticism -- hasn''t really transpired yet. That''s about to change.

For a variety of reasons, I''m having a very hard time figuring out what it is you''re trying to say in your essay (note: that''s a criticism, not a confession). First, I should point out that the four paragraphs you posted are replete with technical errors of all kinds. Normally I''d bother to point out each of these errors, but there are quite a few on display here, and my enthusiasm for such a chore is finite. If you ask it of me, I''ll offer more specificity, but for now I''ll just suggest that you do some extensive preening. Look for things like run-on sentences, poor comma use, confused homonyms, lack of proper punctuation, misspellings, and a general lack of conformity with the rules of grammar and the guidelines of good diction.

I''ll break the rest down by paragraphs, although it should be noted that this list is not exhaustive:

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Routine, the English word used to describe a known chore or procedure, comforts me knowingI have a group of guidelines and people to fall back upon, and although it''s abhorred by ""artists"" and ""philosophers"" who desire change with their constant changing lifestyle due to ""earthly baggage"" I question Emerson''s sporadic philosophy.

--Ambiguity: Is it really the word routine itself that comforts you? Or do you mean to say that you are comforted by activities that are routine to you?

--Straw man fallacy: Emerson does not mention ""artists"" at all in the quote you''re responding to. And he also says that the philosophers adore foolish consistency... not abhor. Or, are you perhaps talking about a different group of philosophers here? In either case, you should specify just who it is you''re discussing.

--Muddy clause: ...who desire change with their constant changing lifestyle due to ""earthly baggage""... What does it mean, ""[to] desire change with [one''s] changing lifestyle""? Also, what ""earthly baggage"" are you referring to? (Don''t feel like you have to answer these questions for me; my point is simply that they should have been answered by your essay.)

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For the past few years I considered mself a starving artist that no one could understand because my thoughts were to complex for the human mind to see without the use of meditation or some sort of hallucinogen. Once I realized that my ""muse"", I use that term as loosely as possible, was nothing more than my inspiration pairing to something that stimulated my emotional adrenals, my view on the days lightened significantly. With this new free of megalomania, which I liked to call ""enlightenment"", I found myself evolving into an internet rat, and I joined a faithful organization based on proving how pointless labor is, I became a GWJ, a ""Gamer with a job"". The gamers with jobs are a small underground forum website dedicated to online games, game discussion and general satire and applying routine hilarity to a hectic lifestyle.

--Should one be described as a ""starving artist"" simply because one isn''t frequently understood by others? Isn''t the adjective ""starving"" supposed to imply that the artist in question lacks a steady or significant source of income?

--What does it mean, to have one''s view ""on the days"" lighten significantly, as you claim yours has? Which ""days"" are you talking about? Why was your prior view of those days negative?

--Why should the identification of your muse eliminate your megalomania? Are you sure ""megalomania"" is the right word to use here? Furthermore, why did the absence of megalomania lead you to the internet and Gamers With Jobs? These events seem rather unconnected to me.

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Finding the secret to ridding onself of the ""hobgoblin"", which is a villain in Spiderman comics, as labeled by Mr. Emerson is discovered through living sporadically philosophizing, and living life by every moment, but at the same time Mr. Emerson criticizes the public for earning a living, which is what Gamers with jobs are required do to, otherwise they would be gamers with are unemployed, but as a GWJ one does not enjoy his job, if on liked his work it wouldn''t be called a job. The ""foolish consistency"" which statesmen, philosophers and the divine adore directly insults me, not only as a divine respecting individual, but as a GWJ who discusses news articles and other ""wordly baggage"".

--What do Spider-Man comics have to do with the argument you''re trying to make?

--What does it mean, to philosophize ""sporadically""? This is the second time you''ve used those words together, but on neither occasion did you explain what it is you mean.

--Where does Emerson criticize the public for earning a living? Certainly not in the quote under discussion. Cite your sources.

--Why should the holding of a job imply that that job is unenjoyable?

--Ambiguity: Is it the ""foolish consistency"" itself which insults you? Or are you insulted by the fact that some people are foolishly consistent? Also: why? And what work does the word ""directly"" do in this context?

--Also, as illum mentioned, you seem to have misinterpreted what Emerson means by the word ""divine"".

--Inconsistency: Earlier you used the term ""earthly baggage"", but here you use ""wordly baggage"". As with the first instance, it''s still not clear what you''re referring to here.

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I enjoy consistency knowing I have people to come home to everyday to joke with, laugh and argue with in a somewhat civil manner. Mr. Emerson would have agreed with our ""philosophies"" about living without enjoying the work given by ""the man"", except we do have routine, we play World of Warcraft every night after work.

--How is playing World of Warcraft an exception to your claim that Emerson would have ""agreed"" with your philosophically derived failure to enjoy your work? (Notice how awkward that question is? This is caused by awkwardness in the source.)

--If illum is to be believed, you have misinterpreted the sort of ""consistency"" being discussed by Emerson. It seems as though your entire essay was spawned from this misinterpretation. A careful statement of your thesis and definition of pertinent terms at the outset of your paper might have saved you quite a bit of trouble. Me too, for that matter.

In its current state, I can only tell you that I think your essay is problematic to the extreme.

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Damn Lobo. I wish you had been around to proofread my papers when I was in high-school.

It usually took me three or four revisions of a paper to catch the kind of errors you''re pointing out all at once

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God help you if your prof actually comes to the site and stumbles across the HawT Gamer Chicks thread or anything that Pyro''s ever posted.

Ummm, dont you mean Taco?

Great article BTW JD.

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