Motherboard Advice
Monday, January 24th, 2005 - 6:56pm
Ok, I'm looking to build a computer. I have made some descisions. I'm going with intel. There is no debate about that. Second, I've chosen the LGA775 slot, and most likely a 3.0 Processor - however, I can't find a motherboard that I like. I'm hoping to find one at or below 100. I'm looking for DDR (not DDR2, or at least, supporting both). IDE slots x2 (4 devices) (SCSI would be nice, but its much more expensive). Onboard sound and video, w/ pci express (though that isn't so much a requirment). The sound, I prefer to be of 5.1 or better, but not a big deal, and the video, just good enough to get by until I can purchase a good video card.
I don't know brands very well at this point, as I haven't had to buy a motherboard in years. My friends are no help, most of them are as computer literate as my dead great great grandmother, and those who are, argue over whats good and what isn't. I know I'm gonna suffer some quality issues going for a cheaper board, and I suppose I can go a little higher than 100, but I'd prefer not to, since the processor is gonna be expensive.
Just figured I'd post here, get some answers... I use newegg, tiger direct, and pricewatch. So... if you guys got other spots to look, let me know.
Thanks!
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If you''re going with Intel, why bother building? Just watch the bargain boards and grab a Dell when a good deal comes up. If you insist on ignoring the superior price/performance ratio and overall technological superiority of AMD, go with Newegg.
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for starters, AMD isn''t that superior, I''ve had to many run ins with AMD and their processors. Intel has always been stable for me, while AMD has been questionable at best sometimes. I prefer not to get into a debate about which is better, b/c when it comes down to benchmark performance, the intel boards actually outperform in math heavy situations. I''m a coder, I play games, but I need the ability to use math heavy algorithms.
Also - I''m building b/c I want this to be ''my'' computer, and I am not going to buy a ''cheap ass dell'' - I''m sorry, but you get what you pay for, even if you don''t think so. The hard drives, the motherboards, they''re cheaply made, and I mean, REAL bad. One of my professors used to work for Gateway back when they were decent (were they ever decent?) and he said that they saved money by putting lower quality parts in and claiming they were just as good as the others. So, I''m sorry, for those reasons, this will be my own build. And intel will be where I go. I was looking for brands though mostly b/c I have what I ''want'' picked out, I just don''t want to buy a bad brand and find out later it was a bad brand (and no, minase, intel is not a bad brand)
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Hmm...sounds like your a bit behind in keeping with the technology changes. AMD is currently slapping Intel around in all but the most specialized SS3 benchmarks.
Even certain content creation benchmarks where Intel used to stomp AMD have now all gone to AMD.
If your into Math intensive programs and gaming your really not getting the most for your money going with Intel.
I''m also pretty sure there are several math application that can take advantage of AMD 64 bit extension to more than quadruple peformance over 32 bit processors.. pretty odd to completely discount that.
In any case..
That being said I''m unaware of any Intel chipsets that support both PCIe and DDR.. your going to have to go to DDR2 with Intel chips if you want PCIe slots... this of course will up your memory costs as DDR2 is running higher than DDR.
But you should be able to find a decent Intel mobo with onboard video and 5.1 codec.
Also your Dell comment is odd as they use Intel made motherboards (which are high quality) and fairly standard equipment.. Seagate HD''s, Micron Memory, ATI and Nvidia Video Cards, LiteOn Optical Drives etc..
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Last time I looked (last fall), the AMD 64-bit processors were performing roughly the same as their price-equivalent Intel counterparts, i.e. $300 bought about the same power from both manufacturers, after averaging out the family-specific integer/float/memory variations... I''m curious if things have changed...
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Intel''s own motherboards are very stable, but they tend to be a bit expensive and not as feature-rich as some of the other brands. Things may have changed with the 915/925 chipset though - I seem to remember reading something like that on Anandtech.
GameGuru is right about the DDR2 - at the moment it''s still quite expensive. If it''s too expensive for you, your only choice is to fall back to the 865/875 chipset. The 875 still performs very well, and because it''s been superceded by the 925, you should be able to pick it up for cheap.
As far as other motherboard brands are concerned: I''ve read somewhere that you should never buy a brand that does not at least have an English version of its website.
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Things have changed.. across the board other than certain mobile chips AMD 64 processors are faster than Intel''s. From the flagship down to the $200 price range.
Even for workstations you''d be crazy to not use dual Opterons over Dual Xeons. Especially since Nvidia''s NFORCE 4 PRO chipset will be out in a few months.
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Yes AMD has really come arround in all areas.
The other side benifit is I find AMD much easier to OC if you want to consider that also.
If you rally want pursue Intel mobo information I would recommend Toms or Sharkey for some reviews of different boards.