Baseball: We all need to pray...
Friday, January 21st, 2005 - 2:24pm
Rumour has it that Billy Beane will leave Oakland if the sale goes through. We must hope that Buddy Boy doesn't let this happen to my team.
I ask for your help as we pray to the sport gawds.
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Can''t they just kidnapp him and force him to play? THis is the Oakland raiders right?
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Baseball is dead. At least for Rays fans.
The owner simply refuses to commit money to the team, so while I''ll root for the team to win, it sure DOES NOT deserve my money.
So look for this team to move in the next few years because ALOT (a majority?) feel the same way.
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You should be glad if Beane leaves. Money Ball hasn''t produced a playoff series win for Oakland, just a bunch of all-stars that go to other teams when they become successful.
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People still care about Baseball outside of NY and Boston?
I thought next year was simply going to feature Yankees and Red Sox playing 162 times
Aint nothing new about the world order..it's been playing since the day they put George Washington on a quarter
85's face the truth you're too dumb.
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Sad thing is...
I''d watch it over watching the pointless Phillies eek out another medicore season...
Aint nothing new about the world order..it's been playing since the day they put George Washington on a quarter
85's face the truth you're too dumb.
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Man I hate baseball nowadays, thanks for reminding me we have a team down here man...
We get rid of a good 1st baseman cause we dont wanna pay any money and pick up a guy with a .212 and 10 HRs last year and a 37 ex-all star.
Tampa Bay Devil Rays, the place where all-stars go to die...
I don't think I've ever said this sentence before, but man would I love to hump that butterfly.-- KrazyTaco
One phone call and you're melting like butter over my kettle pop. -- Edwin to Mex
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Don''t get me started on the D-Rays. First, they get saddled with the worst team name and unis in all of pro sports.
Second, they have the most tight-fisted owner in baseball who refuses to spend money OR sell his interest in the team. I guess he is holding out for whatever payday he can get when MLB moves the team. He is like the owner from Major League except an old ass man, and not a hot ex-showgirl.
Third, the one season they DID try to get some good players, we got total bums. Greg ""fatty"" Vaughn? Wilson ""always injured, fatty"" Alvarez? Vinnie ""Cash-steala"" Castilla? Then when they leave the team, they are suddenly good again? Greg Vaughn should be thrown in jail for what he did to the Rays.
SO......ANGRY.........
At least the Bucs are good, oh wait...
Can we trade Gruden and get Dungy back? Everyone wins.
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This guy pisses me off, he totally sucked when he plays here, then as soon as he leaves, does better.
I don't think I've ever said this sentence before, but man would I love to hump that butterfly.-- KrazyTaco
One phone call and you're melting like butter over my kettle pop. -- Edwin to Mex
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Isn''t the Devil Ray''s owner the one who got pulled over after leaving a game for speeding. Then proceeded to scream at the officer saying ""Do you know who I am?!""
If so, I''m going to guess that the officer DID know, and jacked up the penalty because of it.
man...I''d trade 10 lousy seasons for one superbowl..
How quick you guys forget...
Aint nothing new about the world order..it's been playing since the day they put George Washington on a quarter
85's face the truth you're too dumb.
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I agree, I want Gruden here for awhile.
JimmDogg is your real name Steve Duemig? (just kidding!)
I don't think I've ever said this sentence before, but man would I love to hump that butterfly.-- KrazyTaco
One phone call and you're melting like butter over my kettle pop. -- Edwin to Mex
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All that so-called moneyball does is take advantage of baseball in-efficencies (sp?) to create a better team. I think taking a team to the playoffs this many times on 1/3 the payroll of all the other teams in the playoffs (barring Minnesota) is quite an achievment. I agree with Billy Beane in that playoffs is nothing but random luck, because the best team doesn''t always win. If it did the Yankees would never lose.
And how many playoff series wins does Money Ball teams have in comparison to high-payroll, mega all-star teams? Until it actually produces post-season results, I (and Oakland) should have more faith in the proven ways.
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I believe that Money Ball does work and Ooakland is an example of it. Oakland is a good ball club (we''ll see how they do now with the big three no more) and compared to Angels who spend almost twice as much as Oakland does, have good results.
The A''s will never be able to keep talent unless they can earn more income. Until real revenue sharing starts, Baseball won''t grow.
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I will be happy when Montreal has a team and the Blue Jays don''t suck*.
*very Jaded ex-Blue Jay fan
McChuck wrote:
I''m not a fairweather fan. I stick my White Sox no matter how bad of a slump they ever get into.
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I''m not a fairweather fan either. When they got rid of the team that I came to like I just stopped watching baseball completely.
McChuck wrote:
Uh, no. They have to be willing to spend the money to keep the talent. Money Ball''s principle is basically ""buy low, sell high."" Once the contract''s almost up and the player starts asking for more money, trade ''em! This year was the worst in terms of exporting talent and the fact that you''re still backing Billy Beane after all of that is surprising. Just keep telling yourself that Money Ball''s working. You seem not to mind losing all your best players and getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs consistently.
"Men like sex, thus boobies! Oogaba!" - dejanzie
"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
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'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
Oh quit crying. My Brewers have sucked for years. They might be willing to spend more to get good players, they just don''t have any money. I''m really hoping new ownership will shake things up a bit. They can''t get any worse, so it''s not like changes could hurt the team. They were dead last in their division for the last 3 seaons, and haven''t finished above .500 since 1992.
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The Red Sox are a Moneyball team. They just also happen to have money.
Moneyball is about elevating statistical analysis of players to equal or higher footing than scouting, treating plate discipline as a first order skill, and sacrificing defense for offense when you have to, among other things.
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Oakland''s biggest problem is the Giants. Their beautiful ballpark was destroyed by the return of Al Davis, while the Giants got a brand new spiffy joint. There is no reason that a rational owner would spend money on ballplayers as there just wont be a payoff, no matter how well they do. The TV money favors the Giants, as does attendance, and general bay area support, despite the fact that the A''s have been FAR better during the span of time that they have been neighbors. Seriously, they are my favorite team (I was born in Oakland), but they need to move. I think a move to either Las Vegas or Mexico City could make them real competitive.
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Doesn''t Miami already have a team? Where do the Marlins play?
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Definately Sac (am I Giants fan, so I wouldn''t care much either way [hell, we got to the World Series more recently than Oakland got a playoff win]). Since TPTB in baseball say that San Jose is Giants territory, Sacremento is the best alternative if they want to stay reasonably local. Oakland just isn''t a viable sports market anymore, for them or for the Raiders*.
* = Just look at the sell-out numbers. Almost every Raider home game this year was blacked-out locally because they failed to sell out, whereas every Niner home game was televised this season, despite the fact that San Francisco had the worst record in the NFL this year.
"Men like sex, thus boobies! Oogaba!" - dejanzie
"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
how rock can be commercial-free!
'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
You and I have never been in more agreement since the the smoky v. bandit debate, of 1977. Back in 1997-98 there was real hope that they would move to Sacramento. Being born and raised in Roseville/Rocklin, I would love for them to move to Sacramento. Sac han''t had a real sports team since the Niners left Seirra College. The Kings dont'' count!
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
I think I was stoned then...
"Men like sex, thus boobies! Oogaba!" - dejanzie
"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
how rock can be commercial-free!
'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce