Serotonin: To Zoloft or Not

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this may be a strange topic for the board, but anyway..
my levels of serotonin are drastically low, my brothers are the exact opposite. he is on zoloft, and it was suggested that it may be a good idea to try a prescription of it to see if it balances stuff out.

anybody have any experience with anti-depressants or other medications to help chemical imbalance, either good or bad?

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Anecdotal. I''ve never tried the stuff but I can dig up an equal amount of good v. bad second hand experiences from friends, relatives, ex wives, etc.

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Check around at www.crazymeds.org They probably have some information on the topic.

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The only opinions that matter are A) your doctor''s and B) yours. The two of you should have many conversations on the subject before you start taking mood altering drugs.

This is true. There are usually other means to help balance out chemical levels unless it is extreme. Make sure your doctor elaborates on all of the possible methods of treatment.

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I can say from personal experience that Lexapro does what is advertised. It really made a big difference. I was never going to be the one to use this sh*t. However, if you reach a certain point your willing to try anything. It is important to remember that this stuff is just a bandaid in most cases. You should be looking into the alternatives for the long term.

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The only experience I''ve had with anti-depressants have given me bizarre mood swings, and given me latrge pains in my lower abdomen.

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"Mills wrote:
this may be a strange topic for the board, but anyway..
my levels of serotonin are drastically low, my brothers are the exact opposite. he is on zoloft, and it was suggested that it may be a good idea to try a prescription of it to see if it balances stuff out.

anybody have any experience with anti-depressants or other medications to help chemical imbalance, either good or bad?

You certainly want to see a doctor.. a Pyscharitrists for sure.. I wouldnt even take these drugs prescribed from a family physician.

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Be very careful with SSRIs. They tend to have serious side effects that can be quite difficult to live with.

It seems to be a trend with most Dr.s and insurance to just write off a script for an SSRI and send you out the door. Zoloft is one of the lighter ones and can help to pull you through, but its not a good long term answer IMO. I have taken Prozac, Zoloft and Paxil. Prozac has too many side effects while on it, Paxil is hell to get off, and Zoloft is rather light.

I am bipolar and finally decided that I would rather deal with the effect of that on my own than the side effects of the SSRIs that Dr.s keep pushing me on. Zoloft did help the most allowing me to better understand and recognize my cycles so that I am now able to deal with them on my own.

Make sure to inquire with your Dr about any non-SSRI options.

http://neuroland.com/psy/ssri.htm

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I am bipolar and finally decided that I would rather deal with the effect of that on my own than the side effects of the SSRIs that Dr.s keep pushing me on. Zoloft did help the most allowing me to better understand and recognize my cycles so that I am now able to deal with them on my own.

Have you asked your Doctor about Lamectal (lemectal) my wife is bipolar and that has worked miracles for her.. she''s back in school and doing great now for 4 years.

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"Mills wrote:
this may be a strange topic for the board, but anyway..
my levels of serotonin are drastically low, my brothers are the exact opposite. he is on zoloft, and it was suggested that it may be a good idea to try a prescription of it to see if it balances stuff out.

anybody have any experience with anti-depressants or other medications to help chemical imbalance, either good or bad?

How did they measure your serotonin levels? Are you having symptoms of depression or are you feeling sluggish? And could it be seasonally related? Winter is a horrible time for your body clock and a lot of people get down this time of year (me included). As always the best advice is to consult a psychiatrist/medical professional experienced in this realm.

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dunno how they measured it, they did some tests in my early 20s. the stuff i''ve dealt with since the early teens was seen as laziness , moodiness, and being easily distracted. of course NOW those are recognized symptoms. the depression has almost always been there, but not bi-polar- never really high, but the lows are bad, if i do something i like, i could stop doing it in a second if a mood hits and think I don''t like what it is i''m doing. I was prescribed nortriptilyn for a couple of years, and stopped taking it when weird social reactions like sever panic or intense anxiety started to kick in.

it''s weird, but it feeds my creative side, hurts my social side and sometimes the ability to do my work properly, if at all. this is a good one, as sometimes when i''m driving to work or the movies or to a friend''s house, sometimes the decision to go the other direction and go somewhere else is impossible- even in the parking lots. one thing it doesn''t help is relationships, because the women i''ve been with don''t understand it and think it''s crazy.

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The only bad side effect is this.

Hit the nail on the head. The stuff puts your libido through the floor. You could have the poonani right in your face, and you wouldn''t even care.

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I''ve always been pretty firmly against using meds unless it''s a last resort. If you''re feeling open minded you may consider seeing a homeopathic doctor see what he says. I''ve also encountered people who found they were eating a ton of stuff their bodies had sensitivities to and once they cut them out it really helped with the despondency they were feeling. Looking at your lifestyle in terms of diet and exercise levels could be very telling. Or not.

I don''t know, just adding another idea to the mix.

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I had a very good experience with taking Luvox (another SSRI) for OCD. First off it made me able to function, which was becoming difficult at the time. Secondly, and more importantly, it made alot of the things I had been hearing from my therapist make sense, because I actually had the experience of what my mind could function like without the OCD getting in the way. Eventually I was able to taper off it and now I take nothing, haven''t need therapy in a while, and feel great (been several years now). I think it acted as training wheels for me -- had no idea how I was supposed to ride the bike before, once I got the training wheels on it was like ""Ah-ha!"" and then was able to get rid of them after a while.

I didn''t have the lowered libido side effect that alot of people have, but (if you don''t want TMI, stop reading now) it did drastically lengthen the time it would take for me to orgasm. No other side effects and for me it was well worth it for the benefit provided.

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If you''re feeling open minded you may consider seeing a homeopathic doctor see what he says.

If you''re feeling very open minded, you might as well try Smarties.

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Looking at your lifestyle in terms of diet and exercise levels could be very telling.

Now you''re talking. Eating well and exercising is the key to most problems.

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Now you''re talking. Eating well and exercising is the key to most problems.

And one of the first things a homeopathic doctor might suggest

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Now you''re talking. Eating well and exercising is the key to most problems.

And one of the first things a homeopathic doctor might suggest

It helps the high priced placebos giving better results.

Sorry, feel free to bring this thread back on topic.

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Be very careful with SSRIs. They tend to have serious side effects that can be quite difficult to live with.

It seems to be a trend with most Dr.s and insurance to just write off a script for an SSRI and send you out the door. Zoloft is one of the lighter ones and can help to pull you through, but its not a good long term answer IMO. I have taken Prozac, Zoloft and Paxil. Prozac has too many side effects while on it, Paxil is hell to get off, and Zoloft is rather light.

Make sure to inquire with your Dr about any non-SSRI options.
http://neuroland.com/psy/ssri.htm

I have to say that you shouldn''t accept a general practitioners advice on SSRIs without consulting a Psychiatrist first. GP''s are great folks, but are, as a rule, not trained in brain chemistry. SSRIs can be dangerous, they can cause psychosis, and in the EU, they''ve been banned from use in pediatrics because of the possibility that they cause suicide attempts.

They can also be very helpful to some people. The majority of people who take them do so without serious complications. But they''ve become the ""2 asprin and call me in the morning"" response to many problems that may not need to be addressed from a chemical standpoint.

Here''s some wiki information that you can arm yourself with when discussing your options with your medical crew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor

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It helps the high priced placebos giving better results.

Sorry, feel free to bring this thread back on topic.


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Back on topic, I think the greatest advice is definitely to see a doctor and explore your options. Good luck!

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I strongly agree you should avoid GPs when in need of psychiatry. One of the big problems is a severe lack of psychiatrists, so be prepared to get a referral and wait a Very Long Time (tm) for your first appointment. Even when you do get a psychiatrist cornered, he/she is severely overworked and will want to just start trying different meds on you until they find one that works. This is in lieu of an careful diagnosis, takes a very long time (but in helpful (to them) 15-minute appointment increments), and will have a bunch of side effects you don''t want. It helps to read a great deal and be informed (something crazymeds is very good for), and you can use that information to help guide your treatment.

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You''re a stupid-head. NYEAH!

That totally goes against our CoC! Certis, bring out the ban stick!

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Almost five years fast-forward..! To Zoloft is the answer, and it seems to be doing some good.

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Also it appears to have improved your capitalization!

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Good for you. Zoloft has worked well for me.

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Certis wrote:
I''ve always been pretty firmly against using meds unless it''s a last resort. If you''re feeling open minded you may consider seeing a homeopathic doctor see what he says. I''ve also encountered people who found they were eating a ton of stuff their bodies had sensitivities to and once they cut them out it really helped with the despondency they were feeling. Looking at your lifestyle in terms of diet and exercise levels could be very telling. Or not.

I don''t know, just adding another idea to the mix.

I'm with Certis here. Meds are evil.

Have you thought about trying acupuncture? The Chinese have methods to diagnosis and treat a host of ailments and may be able to help alleviate symptoms at the very least. Two of my family members go regularily (combination of digestive, nuerological, and other issues) and swear by it. One of offices has a book of testimonials (several hundred) from patients and what's interesting is 100% had successful changes after their treatments and about 85% of the people only ended up there as their absolute last resort after trying Western doctors, meds, and.or surgery.

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As a counter-anecdote, I went in for a number of acupuncture treatments and the only physical change I experienced was a burn scar from when the acupuncturist accidentally dropped some moxa ash on my stomach.

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A little reference for you on the above

Acupuncture for treatment of depression:
insufficient evidence to determine efficacy of acupuncture for depression
based on Cochrane review systematic review of 7 randomized trials of acupuncture with 517 adults with depression
Reference - systematic review last updated 2004 Mar 17 (Cochrane Library 2005 Issue 2:CD004046)

It doesn't say eitherway and that studies are largely inconclusive.

Also as coming from the field it is sad to hear most peoples impression of allopathy is that they don't perscribe lifestyle modifications before medication.