Kidz Bop 7
Saturday, January 8th, 2005 - 3:57am
Ok, I know there are parents around here, I'm not one, but I watch cartoon network religiously. At any rate, I keep seeing this ad for Kidz Bop 7. Songs like "pieces of me" which include a line: "and he won't stop until I'm there." There are multiple editions (this is #7), and its billed as "being sung by kids, for kids". I'm sorry, but if I did have kids, there would be NO way I'd let my kid sing a song, where they had no idea what they were singing, and make it seem like it was just pefect for them. I mean, I can see them learning the song, thats gonna happen, but to just about spoon feed it into them, I think its just wrong.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but... Kids... I... Its lke the comment once about Britanny Spear's song "hit me baby one more time". Every kid out there knows for sure she meant that she wanted a new #1 hit (seeing how I didn't know that at the age of 17).
Hehe, yeah, I about crapped my pants when I heard a few Blink 182 songs on the commercials... In one song, you''ve got a prank call... sexual references... masturbation references... it was like... uh... guys... I thought these were KIDS songs... maybe the ""edge"" of the Z in KIDZ makes it different?
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Yea, excatly, its not so bad that kids are going to get exposed to this... but, its that this is supposed to be ''for'' kids, not just something they''ll listen to.
All this hypersexualization of children is very troubling. It seems like kids are being exposed to this stuff at way earlier ages and it can''t be healthy. Call me an old fashioned and conservative, but I fear the future.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
Agreed. Now, Duck says I''m a conservative....and I think I''m liberal, but I guarantee you that if I had a daughter, she wouldn''t be allowed to leave the house is the stripper-garb that seems to be the fashion for 8 year olds these days. Nor do I think music like the KidzBop CDs are appropriate. And yet, I''d be ok with them listening to a whole host of music that other parents would find inappropriate.
For instance, my two year old loves the Ramones, Led Zeppelin and the B52s, as well as a range of classical composers and orchestrated works. He doesn''t much care for Nirvana or any of my other grunge CDs though...which makes me a sad panda.
*Legion* wrote:
I find the rock music far less offensive than todays pop. I think that Brittney Spears is far more harmful to the country than Manson ever was (not sure if he still releases stuff). I bring it back to the thongs in the ""tweenier"" girl department. They also have underwear with targets on the crotch.
Boys seem easier to raise. None of this stuff to deal with.
EDIT: While we''re at it, what happened to boys and girls thinking of each other as gross?
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I thought it was for pedophiles who liked sh*tty music. Go figure.
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I dunno about that. I would be just as unhappy about my son taking in this kind of msg about women/sexuality as my daughter taking it in.
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I agree with Hoochie. We have a 15 month old boy. I''d hate to think that our society is going to try teach him to think of girls as nothing but a target to shoot for. We''ll do our best to teach him to respect women, but we''re up against Hollywood and all of his peers (not to mention his own testosterone).
That said, I am glad (for our sakes) that the fashion for the prepubescent BOY doesn''t seem to be thongs with words like ""spoiled"" on them, skin-tight midriff-exposing tops, and pants so tight you need a shoehorn to get them on. I''d have a stroke if he wanted to go out in that sort of getup. I remember dressing like a KID, not a streetwalker. When did it become normal for a 9-year-old to dress like Cher?
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Arg, I have written up perhaps five different responses to this thread, but I won''t post ''em.
I will say, though, that I am amazed by the comeback of old-school rock (late seventies to late eighties) among the younger kids, today. It''s really strange to hear my buddy''s little grade 6 sister talk about Sammy Hagar, Queen and Zepplin.
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Yeah, that''s a really valid point. One that I hadn''t even considered. Fodder for thought indeed.
*Legion* wrote:
Kids are growing up more quickly these days. Literally, I believe.
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I do remember seeing an ad for one of these months ago that had ""Come On Over"" as one of the tunes. Mind you, this is a song by Ms. Aguilera. Some of the lyrics are...
Now, I haven''t heard the full song on the CD, so I don''t know if they changed anything (one would certainly hope they did) but yeah, Kidz Bop is... troubling, at best.
If you''ve been to a mall in the past two years, yeah, our kids are definetly recieving a hypersexual message that i''m not thrilled with. I mean, I never have thought a bare breast would cause spontaneous murder or a lifetime of sexual dysfunction, but it''s getting out of hand. If you''ve seen Rave Girl or everyone''s favorite target, Abercrombie & Fitch (remember the preteen thongs?) it''s just a little silly today.
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When I was in grade school and even Jr. high, hell even today, I wore Ninja Turtle stuff and dressed like a kid. None of us wore ""trendy"" stuff that was ""sexy"" at all. Girls wore t-shirts that weren''t tight fitting and didn''t wear tight pants or short.s
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
I think boys grow up slowe than girls. I know they use to say girls mature more than boys. I think that makes it easier but I''m not a parent nor close to being one.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
I put forth to you this quote from a friend who has two sons.
Boys are easier but girls are probably more fulfilling, especially since they generally get closer to their families (mothers more so) as they get older.
And yes that was a generalization of broads.
I can''t wait to have kids, they''re going to be the ones telling the other kids what rim jobs are.
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I think this is definitely true. I kinda feel bad for my parents as I am an only child. Soon after my 18th birthday I moved about 400 miles from home and live even further now. In all honesty, I am sure they wish they had had a daughter.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
I think it depends. If I have kids, I want a boy. Boys get into sports and all of the things I''m into.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
Not necessarily, I don''t think. I see my family very rarely. Also, whereas I thought initially I was having a girl, and was thrilled and picked out names and whatnot, when sonograms should the Boy to be, well...a boy, I think I was slightly relieved. Now I know I won''t have to kill oversexed teenage boys in a few years. (Well, unless it''s mine...)
*Legion* wrote:
I have a 16 month-old son, and my wife is four months along with our second child (no, we don''t know yet if ""Dot"" is a boy or girl).
As of now, our son listens to bands like Zeppelin, Van Halen, Cinderella, and various other glam/big hair rock bands of the 80''s (though I am well aware that the first two I listed are from a decade or two earlier). He is forced to listen to these artists because my wife and I listen to them, not to mention my fetish for movie scores (Conan, Gladiator, LotR, etc.) and I have seen him ""shake it"" to The Imperial March (aka Darth Vader''s theme). You couldn''t pay me enough to listen to what passes as music today...which I am sure my own father once said about my music.
And yet, with the entertainment industry acting as sometime parent/babysitter, introducing their version of morals (or lackthereof) with each bought CD or movie ticket, is it any wonder that today''s children are growing up way too quickly?
Seriously, there''s a fifteen year age difference between my wife and I (her in her early 20''s and I rapidly approaching late 30''s), and some of the stories I''ve heard from her and what she has seen/heard/experienced at her age is freaking astounding. We''ve had a few debates as to what''s appropriate and not, and I really do seem to be becoming an ""old fogey"" with each passing day. And to hear her tell her stories, it is exactly because of how our moral backbone has snapped in this country.
Don''t get me wrong, I partied my ass off in the 1980''s, doing things that I can barely remember (much less be proud of), but still.
I must come out an visit to get your son out of the hair and into the ROCK. I''m talking about the Ramones, Clash, Elvis Castello, Sex Pistols, fugazi.
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For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
Being a parent these days is a lot like taking on a lvl 50 mob when you''re a lvl 2. The bad news is you have even fewer weapons.
And my second, a little girl, arrives on Thursday (c-section). God help me.
Oh bear, congrats! I reckon we won''t be seeing as much of you on the game...what with the screaming and the feeding and the not sleeping.
*Legion* wrote:
There is some truth to that, really. Growth hormones in various food products consumed by kids have been shown to lower the age at which menstation (sp) starts, breasts develop, pubic hair starts to grow, etc.
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Menstruation. I checked spelling on dictionary.com and it said ""The process or an instance of discharging the menses"". Which sounds like something out of a circus act or 1950s Hollywood ROman epic . Or both.
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""No. I feel... playful today."" *points at beastkeepers* ""Discharge the menses!""
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Wow, I had never heard of Kidz Bop until this thread. My guess is that the target market is teen moms who still listen to that kind of crap themselves...come to think of it, that''s probably the same demographic that''s primarily responsible for the legion of 4-year-old girls wearing midriff-bearing tank tops.
Parents should just try to get their kids hooked on Rush. That will pretty much guarantee that they won''t have sex until they''re out of high school.
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LOL. Classic!
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Don''t assume, you may get the kid into fashion design.
Do you ever walk alone like a drifter in the dark?
That might be sigable.
My daughter is 9 months. I am absolutely terrified about the idea of sending her into the wilds of popular culture and public schools. I never thought I''d feel so conservative in my life. In this post, I was going to suggest that some of us perhaps move into a large, empty wildlife preserve and set up some sort of alternate society -- perhaps even recreate WoW in RL (I don''t play the game - that was going to be my pitch to get you people interested).
But, Podunk''s given me a much more feasible idea -- a steady diet of Dungeons & Dragons, Dune and Star Trek until she''s well into her teens. That formula guaranteed that I didn''t talk to girl until I was 20. If I can get her tabletop wargaming, I should be homefree.
BTW, Uliari, based on your musical prefrences, you are obviously an intelligent person with taste and style. I salute you sir.
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You have just given me an idea for the most awesome tax-shelte*cough*, I mean cult*cough*, I mean wonderful mountain retreat.
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Crap! I just thought of a major flaw with my plan. It won''t work. In fact, it will backfire completely.
My daughter would become that Really Cute Chick Who For Some Reason Is Into D&D, Dune and Star Trek. There''d be a neverending stream of boys at her call.
I digress. IRT, as all of you have said, this hypersexualization of kids is EXTREMELY unsettling. I don''t remember anything like this when I was growing up in the early 80s. Any thoughts on how/why society''s changed?
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