Cheating in Halo2? Thats Unpossible!!
Thursday, January 6th, 2005 - 3:36am
While perusing the Bungie forums this evening I stumbled upon this lovely video. It shows how people use the standby button on their modems to cheat in matchmaking games. Truly sad and I hope Bungie will atleast ban the perps if they cannot fix the glitch.
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There is also one that when you target someone with the rocket launcher scoper and switch to the sword and pull the trigger at the same time you teleport across the map no matter where you are for a instant kill. Timing is suppose to be hard to get but doable.
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That''s just the kind of retarded crap that happened in a few of my earlier Rumble Pit games. I would be winning by a couple of kills, the game would stop for a minute, and when it came back I and everyone else minus one person would be dead, and some other guy would be up 6 kills. Absolutely freaking retarded.
I wish I had a good way of recording all my games.
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Dude, I tried that for about 10 minutes with no success in a local match. I have no idea how they can pull that one off.
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Thin_J - if you send Bungie the Game Viewer link they will be able to tell. From what I''ve heard now that the holidays are over they will be targetting all cheaters and banning Live accounts. I don''t doubt that a few asshats will be gone soon.
Glitches don''t count (ie. grabbing the flag through the floor in Coag) as cheats, but I''m sure they will be removed in the next autoupdate.
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Go to bungee and get the game record. They host everything, including the play by play, in the game. I don''t know how long for, but they go so far as to even show who killed who, from where, and where the victim was. Everything is recorded, you just have to bring it to their attention.
I''ll remember that for the future, but I''ve played enough Rumble Pit games now that I couldn''t really tell you which of the games I''ve played it occured in. I do know that it happened two games in a row on the same night, but I don''t remember any specifics other than being extremely frustrated.
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I don't imagine master craftsmen leaping away from completed projects and shouting "Done, motherf*ckers! - 1Dgaf
I know what you mean, but if your determined enough, you could search through and find it. Plus, simply alerting them to it, might fix the issue. I''ve had it happen once, I thought it was my connection, I guess not. Either way, it doesn''t bother me all that much - its just a game, a game I''ll like playing no matter what.
It''s not really a cheat - just a bug. My sons found this out about two weeks ago on the multi-player stuff. I didn''t realize it was possible on Live, too.
The rocket-launcher thing sounds iffy. It''s much easier if you get into the passenger seat of a Warthog with the plasma sword out. Do a lunge, which if you do it right will make the noise but not do anything. Get the other guy lined up with you (in a Banshee on a straight line is the coolest). When you exit the vehicle, the lunge will process, and you will literally fly right to him and do the strike.
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side note: can anyone else log into their stats, it look like bungie reset everything... or something...
edit: it looks like everyone''s score was reset, but the game records are still there.
If you check out bungie.net, there''s a newspost saying how they''ve been having problems with their servers all day long. I think it''s likely to go away just like the Rumble Pit reset did.
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I don't imagine master craftsmen leaping away from completed projects and shouting "Done, motherf*ckers! - 1Dgaf
Another good read from Bungie:
Well, let''s preface this answer by explaining that we hate cheaters and have a duty to respond to cheating and exploits on Halo 2. We ARE doing everything in our power to investigate, alleviate and remove the problems, but they are many and varied.
Cheating, by its nature is the act and responsibility of a group or individual. We can''t do anything from a technical standpoint that stops people being jerks. That''s not an attempt to dilute our responsibility – it''s a fact. Cheating is caused by cheaters, not by bugs. That''s why nobody uses pepper spray in a Ping Pong tournament, even though it would fit nicely in those short shorts. The problem with a video game of Halo''s scale – we''ve sold 6.3 million copies – is that the number of jerks playing rises proportionally.
We''ve seen all kinds of cheats and griefers. From simple team killing, abusive language, racism – people playing loud music or screaming continually through their headsets – to sophisticated, planned network exploitation. No matter what we do in the immediate and long term future, people will still find ways to be asses. The cheating will in all likelihood decrease with the lifespan of the product, as cheaters become bored, or move onto their next ""project."" In the interim though, we see it as an irritating and serious problem that we are addressing.
Right now, we have a team of people working on technical fixes. Those are being investigated and tested – some will work, some will be out of our control (ISPs, hardware exploits and other elements may be out of our reach) but we are endeavoring right now to identify good ways to prevent cheating and adjust systems to penalize those who do cheat.
We realize that some cheating is caused by software glitches – flags passing through geometry etc., and of course those are our responsibility entirely. We can''t even really blame people for abusing that type of minor glitch, but we''re also looking into those. The reason we're not giving details is that we don''t want casual users repeating the cheats, and we don''t want to promise fixes for things that might later turn out to be impossible to fix. Hence the delicate language in this answer.
What have we done so far? A lot. Certainly on the technical side we''re making progress and politically, we''ve been banning Xbox Live accounts regularly when we find clear evidence of cheating (and the evidence is hard to refute since we track very detailed information about the game and network experience) and we ban offensive Gamertags, abusive players and other miscreants all the time. It just takes time. If you ARE cheating, quit it now, firstly because we''re politely and respectfully asking you to do so, and secondly because it''s very often a terms of use violation, and one we can act upon by banning you, banning your credit card, etc.
No surprise, as in every online game, we knew there were going to be abuses from the start, which is one of the reasons for such detailed custom game support and we knew this process was going to be an evolutionary one. We''re working very hard.
Sigh. So, there you have it, a long-winded answer with few real details, for reasons we''ve tried our best to explain.
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What''s wrong with Bungie.net and my stats today?
Today you may have noticed lots of strange things on bungie.net. These included ""Internal Server Errors"", vanishing stats, ""Web Exceptions"", and general slowness. We''ve been working the problem all day, and things have gotten better, but we''re still closing out the last of the problems, so you''ll still see some occasional sputters until we get it fixed, hopefully by the end of the day.
So, that means you can stop emailing us about it - we know your stats have vanished on bungie.net. Rest assured that you haven''t lost anything. It is just a case of the web servers having difficulty accessing the data. It''ll all be back.
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Well, sounds like they''re taking the problems seriously. Whether or not they''ll be able to fix them is another question. I guess you have to have some faith that the folks who were talented enough to put together such an awesome game/online interface in the first place will be able to do something anyway.
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I have no doubt that they will be able to fix the geometry glitches. The stand by cheat will be quite a bit more difficult since, as I understand it, the server cannot tell the difference between a modem on standby and a simple hiccup in someone''s connection.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.