Ebay Scam: Death penalty too good for some people...
Monday, January 3rd, 2005 - 8:43pm
According to Evil Avatar, this is this guy's SIXTH attempt to defraud folks of their money for a PICTURE of his Xbox. To say his ad is misleading is a bid of a understatement. Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=815909...
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What a maroon.
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Heh, well it does say that you''re bidding on a PICTURE of an X-Box... that said, I can''t understand how a guy like this has such a high feedback rating. Maybe an inflated score by friends? Heard of people doing that before.
"Just remember that sometimes you need to allow problems to just roll like water off of a duckilama's back." ~Reaper
There needs to be an island where these people are dumped. No, wait, we don''t need an island, we should just dump them in the middle of the ocean. I''d be willing to give this guy a picture of a lifevest.
Yay! Justice with irony! The best kind of justice.
"Just remember that sometimes you need to allow problems to just roll like water off of a duckilama's back." ~Reaper
He just broke all barriers of Suck.
The man wears a bucket of KFC on his head. I wouldn't expect anything less. - Pred
He possibly became.... teh suq?
"Thanks, KrazyTaco, thanks. I'd put it in your pooper too." -Mex
"Krazy, I love the fact that you exist." -Vector
"Oh, KrazyTaco, you fulfill all my wishes." -pneuman
xboxlive= KrazyTacoFO
caveat emptor
*Legion* wrote:
I got a good chuckle out of that, but I hope no one buys it.
This is a great picture of an excellent Xbox collection!
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Exactly, people should learn to read.
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"Come on now, there's no need to make that kind of noise. It sounds awful and you'll upset other people." - Ionae from Spirit Engine 2
His high feedback does not come from buyers, but from people he''s bought from...
I noticed that too.
"Thanks, KrazyTaco, thanks. I'd put it in your pooper too." -Mex
"Krazy, I love the fact that you exist." -Vector
"Oh, KrazyTaco, you fulfill all my wishes." -pneuman
xboxlive= KrazyTacoFO
Ah, so it does... very interesting... eBay should really think about having separate catagories for Buyer and Seller Feedback when it comes to asshats like this.
"Just remember that sometimes you need to allow problems to just roll like water off of a duckilama's back." ~Reaper
I love the word asshat... its so, amusing... at any rate, I fully agree
Here''s all the asshatting you can handle...
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come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
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'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
The paperclip X-wing was cute at least. But this!
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Paperclip X-wing? I always wanted one of those! Lots of places to stick the firecrackers!
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We''de have that island in to time flat. An island of dead people, but an island is an island!
-Bad Mojo
And man that dog looks like he's having a good time, but that monkey is f*cking into it. This isn't his recreation; this is his life and he knows it in a way I will never know anything. --Danjo Olivaw
There''s actually a bid on it. Did some sorry fool actually bid on it or did this moron bid on himself, I wonder...
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The auction closed after a $300 bid. Oh man, that would suck. To the ebayers in the crowd: do you know does the buyer have any recourse after learning they just bought a three hunder dollar picture?
Whoever won should ask for 2nd day Air to Antarctica. While probably not $300 worth of shipping, it should be a dent.
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Whoever actually bid on this deserved to get ripped off. I bet they are the same people who buy vacuums from door to door salesmen.
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Come on just go for overnight, I''m sure he''s a reasonable guy.
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Seriously... look at his shipping thingy... He intends to e-mail the picture. That is the scammers giggly-glee point! Especially if the buyer opts for shipping insurance!
In related news... as it true that some Texan is selling a 3-lb Snowball on e-bay? I''d love to confirm this myself, but I''m loath to google internet rumors. That''s a surefire way to meet goatse or tubgirl... *shudder*
Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.
I think it''s quite possible that Mr. Cleverseller might get a visit from a state AGs office or similar agency regarding false and deceptive trade practices for a start off the top of my head, if anyone was inclined to push the issue. I do not believe they care for this type of thing.
Of course it being in their bailiwick and them actually caring/having enough manpower/not being apathetic enough to do something about it may be a different issue.
How? He had the word ""PICTURE"" in all caps...in multiple places. I will grant you that this is slimy, underhanded and morally bankrupt...but I can see no case for fraud actually being prosecutable. Of course, IANAL, so I could be way wrong, but it seems to me that the asshat did a pretty good job of covering his...well, ass.
*Legion* wrote:
It looks like he intentionally inflated his feedback rating by buying up tons of low cost, worthless crap (mostly $2-3). I''d guess he''s been preparing to become an e-bay rip off artist.
I believe that any poor buyers would have recourse through ebay''s protection policies due to the fact that the ad is misleading. Even though it does say ""picture"", the rest of it is misleading, especially to a non-native english speaker.
Here''s hoping anyway.
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It''s more than likely that he''s been doing the bidding in the hopes of snagging a last minute non-reader, especially since the bidder identities are set to private and the increments between all those bids are consistently small.
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Although I am a lawyer, this is not specifically what I do for a living, I am not offering anyone any advice, use at your own risk, none of you are my clients, etc.
That said, I really don''t practice in the specific area of trade protection, and so what is stated below are general thoughts along with some hastily done research at the bottom (I typed this out of order from stream of consciousness, so if it''s all messed up, sorry).
Generally stated, the ability to do underhanded things with the actual intent to mislead is not necessarily protected under the law just because there was enough information to figure it out if you read it closely enough.
Although not completely connected (but an example nonetheless), there are laws that prevent you from selling junk and trying to disclaim all responsibilities away. For example, one cannot simply sell securities in a company by saying, ""It could be worth 20 times as much next year but it might be worth nothing, Buyer beware!"" Just as there are laws that regulate the sale of securities, there are laws that protect consumers from some of the above tactics.
O.K., after I typed most of the above, my own curiosity was piqued for concrete examples. So I quickly found the following under Minnesota Statutes, Section 325F.67. The emphasis is mine:
""Any person, firm, corporation, or association who, with intent to sell or in anywise dispose of merchandise, securities, service, or anything offered by such person, firm, corporation, or association, directly or indirectly, to the public, for sale or distribution, or with intent to increase the consumption thereof, or to induce the public in any manner to enter into any obligation relating thereto, or to acquire title thereto, or any interest therein, makes, publishes, disseminates, circulates, or places before the public, or causes, directly or indirectly, to be made, published, disseminated, circulated, or placed before the public, in this state, in a newspaper or other publication, or in the form of a book, notice, handbill, poster, bill, label, price tag, circular, pamphlet, program, or letter, or over any radio or television station, or in any other way, an advertisement of any sort regarding merchandise, securities, service, or anything so offered to the public, for use, consumption, purchase, or sale, which advertisement contains any material assertion, representation, or statement of fact which is untrue, deceptive, or misleading, shall, whether or not pecuniary or other specific damage to any person occurs as a direct result thereof, be guilty of a misdemeanor, and any such act is declared to be a public nuisance and may be enjoined as such.""
This is the result of a quick search, but is just intended to show that the layman''s idea that you can play cute games with advertising or sales where so long as nothing is acutally false, the buyer is screwed with no recourse, isn''t always true. These statutes often have fairly broad language (deceptive or misleading, for example) that is construed by case law. Judges will often interpret the language based on the facts presented. If the Ebay guy was brought before your average judge because a working class mom spent the entire Christmas cash on an XBox for her kids, how do you think he would try to interpret the above language against Mr. Assclown the Ebay salesman?