GWJFL3: Week 3
Tuesday, December 14th, 2004 - 9:00pm
Week 3 started.
I'd post something clever but I've got to go tend to my familial duties if I want to get to play WoW tonight. ![]()
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Anytime Wednesday night look good for you Reap?
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Styx, it''s time for you to get your revenge. When can you play?
"It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem." - Malcolm Forbes
Hey Certis, what happened?
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
Wow that was a quick week 2 good job everyone. Now where is that Karrde guy?
PSN ID: Stric9
I forfeit my game against Dutty, although I was winning late in the 3rd quarter his constant QB scrambling on 3rd down (1st and 15 even) wasn''t fun at all, never mind that he also doesn''t use voice so my concerns could be not be heard.
If I wanted to play this sort of football game I''d close my eyes and pick random lobby games. I''m in the league for fun and I wasn''t having it here.
Certis beat me to it. - Elysium
I repeat my desire to require voice in GWJFL Advanced (though that horse has already left the barn, hasn''t it?).
Edit: to add something constructive, it was only 6 rushes to Jamal''s 14, Certis... and your two interceptions were indicative that you were obviously shutting down his passing game... and you were impressively holding Jamal to a 3.9 yard/carry average. I''d say he was making due with the tools available to him.
From an alternate view point, the game tape showed (8 attempts vs PHI) that he liked to scramble with Carter so...
*shrug* Sorry if you don''t like my position on this but with the year Vick is having, a scrambling quarterback is not something I have a problem with.
Edit2: Rushing stats from QC''s first 3 years in the league (this is his 4th):
[code:1:5743111a75]Year G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
2001 8 8 45 150 3.3 17 1 0 13
2002 7 7 27 91 3.4 16 0 0 6
2003 16 16 68 257 3.8 19 2 0 24
[/code:1:5743111a75] which is about 4.5 per game. Pennington averages 2.2; Manning averages 1.9; McNabb: 4.65; McNair: 4.65 and Vick averages 7.14 so it''s not like QC isn''t a bit of a scrambler in real life.
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Damn. And I thought I was having a rough day.
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Whoa, there buddy. I was using voice, but gave up trying after you didn''t respond to me. We must have had something messed with our connection. Also, as far as my QB scrambling, it was just the easiest solution to the defense you were playing. If you are going to throw everyone back into man coverage on third downs, then I will run. If you played zone or used a spy, I wouldn''t be able to scramble.
If you want a rematch, I would be more than happy to ask Grump to reset the game.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
Even though Opti and I played a close game and it was a nailbiter, the lack of voice made the experience less fun.
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I agree about the lack of voice being a problem. I was really dissappointed when Certis didn''t respond to me. Also, if you talk to my previous opponents, Stric9 and Psychokillerz, I used voice in both of my first two matches.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
I don''t get what peoples'' beef with QB running is. It''s no less stoppable than anything else.
I don''t do it myself (Jags, Leftwich, I couldn''t even if I wanted to), but blitzing outside linebackers/DBs for containment pretty much puts the kibosh on it quickly.
The NFL is very steadily heading in that direction. I can''t count how many 3rd downs Steve McNair''s legs burned my Jags for over the past few seasons. And now Vick''s almost a shoo-in for 1,000 yards this season. It''s part of the new NFL.
EDIT: For voice, I haven''t used voice in either of my games so far. But both times, I started with the headset on, to hear if the other person was going to talk. Once the game''s underway, and nothing''s been said, I unplug the headset. That way, I don''t have to wear it, but if my opponent wants to say something, I''ll hear it through the TV speakers and can re-plug my headset to reply. You have to be sure to turn on the ""Voice over Speakers"" option in the ""Online Options"" menu to do that.
Given my aversion to chatting in 1-on-1 games, I think this is a reasonable effort approach. If someone wishes to talk, I''ll oblige.
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If you feel it''s a perfectly valid strategy then that''s ok, our opinions differ. On the first and 15 I was in a zone coverage and you ran anyways just fine, it really doesn''t matter what defense you call unless you fully commit to stopping the QB scramble, which means you leave his receivers wide open for an easy pass.
Anyways, like I said I wasn''t having fun so I quit, it''s nothing personal. Too bad voice didn''t work, can''t say I''ve had problems with it before.
Certis beat me to it. - Elysium
Well, I don''t know what to say. I definitely understand where you are coming from. If you are interested I would like to have Grump reset the match and play a rematch game where I would not make a single QB scramble. We are all in this league to have fun, and if that is not achieved then we are wasting our time. If you feel you have already wasted enough time with me, then by all means, let''s proceed to week 4.
"I like to hear people talking when they're not talking to me," I said. "It's soothing to know that I don't have to listen." -- Bill Harris describing a truism.
I don''t like to use voice when I am playing on Live unless its something like Halo2 which is a team game. My problem with voice in ESPN is its just too distracting. I don''t like to chat it up anyway and I find it just makes me play worse cause I''m not concentrating 100% on the game. Just my 2 cents.
Some zone coverages aren''t very effective in stopping QB runs, unless the QB runs to a side without any receivers. Otherwise, the WR(s) on that side will be pursued downfield by the zone covermen until they release the receivers as they exit the top end of their zone assignments - at which time, the defenders will be a ways downfield.
The ones that work are plays like 2 Hard, where the outside defenders play VERY shallow zones, so they will not go very deep before they release.
Mix that with the many plays that blitz either 2 outside LBs or DBs - 1 on each side - and you will have containment, without having to go all-out to defend it. Or as I sometimes to, just blitz a guy on one side, and take a zone coverman on the other side, and manually ""spy"" the QB (or drop into zone if he stays in the pocket, so I''m not committing that guy to containment if he doesn''t try to run).
Beyond that, switch to the closest player and DON''T go for the tackle - run him horizontally to the sidelines.
Just a tip for anyone''s future use.
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To each his own. But if its for fun anyway, why do yo care about being distracted? My 3 cents.
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I apologize if my first post was a bit snippy, I''ll admit I was frustrated at first. I don''t want you to feel like you''ve got to change the way you play just to keep me happy, my decision to quit was 100% nothing personal and there''s no hard feelings on my end.
I''ll play again if you want to but we''ll need to get that voice working, if only so you can tell me what a wuss I am
Certis beat me to it. - Elysium
Now there''s the love.
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SpyNavy - seeing as this is finals week (and yes, I''m spending far too much time here and not in my compiler), it would be great if we could play our game this weekend. Saturday would be great, or Sunday Night. If not those days, we can work something out.
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Bagga...I can play Thursday or Friday after 4pm CST.
OK, looks like it''d better be thursday then. (I''m gone friday but back sat night) I can get on after 10:30pm EST. Is that too late?
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Reaper - Anything tonight look good to you?
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Be careful, he''s not asking about football.
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Sure I am. If I was talking about me, it''d be all day, baby. All day.
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I''m still not in the League. I also didn''t find the League invite Grumpicus said he sent.
"If Blizzard announces a subscription fee for Diablo III we will have to build a second Internet to make room for all the complaining." - muttonchop
Maybe JMJ and/or Swampy can suggest where to look. I sent it via the League website but I assumed it would show up inside 2k5.
Edit: Sent it again, just to be sure. ""GWJ Reaper"" right?
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Correcto!
"If Blizzard announces a subscription fee for Diablo III we will have to build a second Internet to make room for all the complaining." - muttonchop
reaper you need to log onto the league website ussing you passport account. espnvideogames.com then user leagues.
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I''m so confused!
And I accepted. I should be available this evening around 8:30-9:00 PM EST. Hopefully I don''t accidentally aggro the g/f. Her ""Seduce"" attack is extremely powerful and I tend to lose any saving throws against it.
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I''ll set up a web cam and wear my boxers. I''ll try to get on at about 8:30 EST
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