First rumor that the Half-Life 2 street date has been broken

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http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/565/565561p1.html

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DRaG0nBLaD3 from the Rage3D forums acquired the game from a branch of B&M, plus he has the photos to prove it. Several other users on the Steam forums have also claimed to have bought the game, although the discussion there is far less informative, or in English. However, DRaG0nBLaD3 is unable to play the game as it is locked on Valve's servers, although Valve previously promised to unlock the game for everyone should the street date be broken.

Smart Steam. Even though he has it he can't even play it.
If it's true, that is.

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That is definitely one way to discourage retailers from releasing a game early. Customer backlash is never a fun thing to deal with. Assuming this story is true, of course. I am not convinced, as ""pictures to prove it"" may also mean ""I can use Photoshop suckers!"".

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"winter wrote:
That is definitely one way to discourage retailers from releasing a game early. Customer backlash is never a fun thing to deal with. Assuming this story is true, of course. I am not convinced, as ""pictures to prove it"" may also mean ""I can use Photoshop suckers!"".

Or he works for one of the retailers and opened one up to take pics. Would be awesome if some stores did break the release date and valve unlocked it early, though.

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I''m pulling for the pics to be real and for the game to be unlocked like tomorrow. That''d be awesome.

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I''ve never understood the whole ""breaking a release date"" phenomenon. If the product is completed and in stock, why the heck don''t they just sell it? What does Valve/Vivendi gain by holding a completed, packaged, in store product from sale until next week?

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In some situations it can create an event, and even a frenzy. Midnight openings, for example, are great publicity and generate a perceived lack of product increasing instantaneous demand. When it''s something just within grasp, and yet unattainable it creates a sense of need for the product. In short, Halo 2 would likely not have sold as swiftly as it did unless it had this last momentum of enthusiasm.

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Maybe it''s just me, but I have a tendency to take anything reported by someone named DRaG0nBLaD3 with a sh*tload of salt.

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In short, Halo 2 would likely not have sold as swiftly as it did unless it had this last momentum of enthusiasm.

And not just gamer enthusiasm, but general public enthusiasm, as well. Look at all the press Halo 2 got the other day. Who wants to take bets as to how little HL2 will sell in comparison, what with the zero publicity Vivendi has been putting out the last week or so?

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I don''t care about publicity, I''m interested in playability. I sincerely believe that word of mouth will be enough to see HL2

I''d never heard of the original till someone told me about it!

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And not just gamer enthusiasm, but general public enthusiasm, as well. Look at all the press Halo 2 got the other day.

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I don''t care about publicity, I''m interested in playability.

I tell you what, those TV ads look damned awesome, and almost made me want to buy an XBox. Word of mouth is great, but when you''re trying to build a snowball, you need some sort of catalyst, and MS used mainstream media to wonderful effect on this one. Bravo.

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"Propagandalf wrote:
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/565/565561p1.html

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DRaG0nBLaD3 from the Rage3D forums acquired the game from a branch of B&M, plus he has the photos to prove it. Several other users on the Steam forums have also claimed to have bought the game, although the discussion there is far less informative, or in English. However, DRaG0nBLaD3 is unable to play the game as it is locked on Valve''s servers, although Valve previously promised to unlock the game for everyone should the street date be broken.

Smart Steam. Even though he has it he can''t even play it.
If it''s true, that is.

Just one o the many reasons I find the use of steam to be offensive to me as a consumer.

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Just one o the many reasons I find the use of steam to be offensive to me as a consumer.

Look, I''m fairly neutral on the whole Steam issue, but I don''t see why Valve having the final word on when their game should be released is offensive. As a consumer, I don''t think we have the right to subvert the release of a game at the wishes of those who put it together. Why shouldn''t Valve be the one at the starting line holding the starters gun?

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RE: The post at EA regarding the game''s sale from an EB here in Kentucky...

Honestly if it was me that had picked up the game and the fool had let me buy it, I wouldn''t take the game back. Nor would I probably feel all that bad about it. It''s not my fault he''s retarded. How do you work at an EB and not know when Half-Life 2 is supposed to release?

Not only that, but keeping the game and forcing EB to eat whatever penalty there is on breaking the street date would also cause valve to unlock the game early. I''d be the hero of HL2 players everywhere for at least five minutes. After that they''d start bitching that they don''t like the graphics or the multiplayer sucks. But for those 5 minutes...

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I fail to see how it would even come close to forcing Valve to unlock the game early. Thousands of people have paid for the game, and have it on their computers, and tValve is content to wait until their release date to allow them to play. How is the purchase of the physical disks any different? Why should Valve care?

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Yeah, I think the whole ""early street date => open the floodgates!"" situation does not apply here. Sure, the game files might be on CD''s in someone''s house, but they''re also on thousands of hard drives. Valve finally put a line between the hard good and the license you actually purchased. Bravo to them for finding a way. This game won''t get released early unless they want it to be.

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Maybe it''s just me, but I have a tendency to take anything reported by someone named DRaG0nBLaD3 with a sh*tload of salt.

Really - what makes you say that?

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U2 said they''d release their new album on iTunes if it broke early on the net. It did, they didn''t. Money is good.

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"Paladin wrote:
I''ve never understood the whole ""breaking a release date"" phenomenon. If the product is completed and in stock, why the heck don''t they just sell it? What does Valve/Vivendi gain by holding a completed, packaged, in store product from sale until next week?

In addition to all of the reasons stated above (building anticipation, distribution, etc) I believe a lot of it has to do with quelling the number of spoilers your (potential) customers are exposed to.

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How is the purchase of the physical disks any different? Why should Valve care?

Because Valve is in a lawsuit with Sierra over HL and HL2, they have bad blood with the publisher, and they have specifically made it clear that if anywhere in the publishing chain there is a failure and the release date is broken, then they get to release it on Steam.

This is a developer taking on the ""evil publishing cartel"" and doing a not-too-shabby job of it, IMO.
It is _very_ important to Valve to be able to show that the publishing/distribution model is a)flawed and b)inefficient. Publishers hold developers to a very strict set of rules because of the money investment they make, and yet are unable to deliver on the promises they make in the contracts.

It is a big deal for Valve because of their investment in alternative distribution. And the fact that they want to license Steam to other developers.

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Hmm... when I tried to load the page with the ''proof'' pictures it told me that the site was busy. *sigh*
Well, yesterday a friendly person from FedEx delivered my ''Gold'' specials. I now own a hat! Yay! It actually fits. Double Yay! I wore it to bed with a smile. Two of the posters already adorn my wall, but there is a slight disappointment there: they are the face shot posters, not the box cover ''gordon walking with crowbar'' one.

And the worst part, I have the strategy guide sitting on a shelf 2 feet behind me. It details all the secrets of HL2. I have resisted looking at more than the index, and that only to see if there was a general introduction. I decided not to risk it. On a side note, the last section of the guide details all the maps in CS:S and lists focus points and strategies for them, in one of the tips for Italy it mentiones rushing the long tunnel with the riot shield. My world crumbled before those words. Either they know something, or they did a copy/paste from the CZ guide. Odds are it is the latter. I didn''t over analyze the screenshots to determine if those are current. I didn''t want the thing accidentally falling open to a different page. The stay-fresh seal must remain intact.

The music CD, which I browsed briefly contains neat music. Track 2 in particular will soon be tried in my car, where I have a much superior stereo system. Oh, and the sticker has joined the pile of other game related stickers which have not yet found a home on something which I treasure enough to grace with these ''limited edition'' treasures (I''m laughing, but serious).

The absolute best part: I just got back from the doctor. I have a note that says I can go back to work on the 15th. I almost cried. She asked if I wanted to start out on half-days for a week or two... you have no idea how hard I had to hit the little devil floating over my left shoulder before he would stop humping that idea. Darn my work ethic... darn it!

Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.

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Regarding Valve, Vivendi, and Steam:

Thanks to Steam, I purchased HL2 while not wearing pants.

Nuff said.

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Yikes!

Makes me wonder if I really want to get a new rig when I get moved so I can partake of the ""shanking"". Especially if a lot of the gaming takes place sans pants.

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FYI I checked this rumor out today. A friend of mine who works at Best Buy said they aren''t even getting their copies until Saturday and were told it has a strict street date. However I was at Target this morning doing some shopping (La Pucelle for 19.99!) and they had the HL2 strategy guide on the shelf but the electronics manager said they had been told to NOT sell it before the street date unless the got an official email saying they could. So that''s that. I don''t have the cash to buy it this weekend anyway!

Also DO NOT look at the strategy guide for HL2. I just opened it to one page to see what it looked like and of course there was a major plot point right there! It does look well done tho, but we all know that strategy guides are for losers...

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I''m so glad I''ll be in Shreveport this weekend, away from my computer.

1. I don''t have to put up with two days of fever-pitch hype, speculation and whining about Half-Life 2. Nor do I have to listen, in the event that the game is released early, to how wonderful it is.

2. I might hit a jackpot and hence be able to purchase Half-Life 2 ASAP without remorse.

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I understand it''s an anti-piracy measure, but how long before someone figures out how to make HL2 run without a Steam verification?

I''d give it a week after retail hits. It seems there is always some kind of workaround.

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The problem I have with Steam is that I don''t want to verify with the company whether or not I have a legal copy. Once I buy the CD, I want to be divorced from the process. Admittedly, I''m one of those who NEVER registers their games.

I understand it''s an anti-piracy measure, but how long before someone figures out how to make HL2 run without a Steam verification? I suspect not long. This little dance has been going on for decades. It''s annoying and harmful, but almost all anti-piracy measures have harmed paying consumers far more than it has the pirates.

CS Source has already been broken. You can DL it and play. I''m not willing to risk it with my account, but I know it has been done and works.

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So Steam is a further inconvenience in a long line of inconveniences. I know high speed internet connections make piracy much easier than it used to be, and I know piracy is rampant. Is it going to kill the PC gaming industry? Quite possibly. I roll my eyes when I see these ""l33t d00dz"" talking about how they download warez games. They''re sinking the industry.

I disagree on both points. Steam is a great thing, overall. All updates are easy, the d/l rates are pretty good, and all my HL mods are integrated into the whole package seamlessly. I can decide to play Zombie Panic, Vanilla HL, Counterstrike, DoD, The Specialists, Action HL, or anything else through a common interface. Overall, its really well done.

As for the Warez puppies, I think it actually sells more copies.

My logic is something like this: 90% of games are crap. So you DL the files and a crap, test it out. You like it, you wait for a sale, pick it up. I think that is what at least a third of warez guys are doing.

Technically it''s stealing, but it''s a grey area, business wise, if it leads to a sale. Do you chase the pirates or not? Lot of money to spend to assert your rights, especially since the ISP''s are not there to recover from.

Maybe these ""l33t d000dz"" are actually 13 year olds with no money of their own, maybe not even able to legitimately purchase the copy due to ESRB restrictions. Industry is probably better off letting that slide to create a future client base than trying to chase down every warez crew.

Sooner or later, you start to realize that if you reall love gaming, you better pay for the privilege. There isn''t one legitimate Open Source game project to rival, say Doom 3. They won''t make themselves. Yet.

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The industry''s answer? Punish me, the paying consumer. Yeah, that won''t increase the exodus to consoles. I have my copy of Halo 2, I don''t really feel any great need to buy Half-Life 2 and Steam makes me reluctant to even bother. I don''t want to have to install spyware on my machine for them to make money.

So they should make it easy to pirate instead? I don''t think so.

And consoles have been hacked as well. I can D/L just about any PS2 or Xbox game. Plus, there are Mame, ROMS, etc. for retired systems readily available.

I''d be heard pressed to call Steam spyware.

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Mateo, what''s done for consoles isn''t really the same thing. First of all, you have to order a special part, thenyou ave to open your case, SOLDER something on, close the case, and have a DVD burner. The percentage of the market that is willing/able to do all of that is tiny, indeed. Hell, I consider myself pretty hardcore, and I would never open my XBox and start dripping molten metal all over it. I''m just not that confident in my technical knowlege and skills.

The PC is a dying platform, or at least I hope it is. Publishers know this, and most developers know this as well. Once consoles get the advantages of PCs [mouse/keyboard standard, game-modding, high resolution standard,] I really do think the PC will die a very quick death. Stuff like Steam is both the reason and the result of it.

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