FCC to Veterans: Owned! (not really)
Thursday, November 11th, 2004 - 11:31am
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/11/movie.canceled.ap/index.html
I find that oh so sweetly ironic. Now, granted the FCC is not saying "Do not air it, or else we shall smite thee in holy retribution" but considering what has been happening lately I'm not so sure Ic an blame the media for playing it safe. Especially since if they did show it uncut, and they didn't get a complaint, the backlash from other people would be insane.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.



Some of them are showing ""Return to Mayberry"" in its place. Coincidence? I think not.
This FCC crackdown garbage has gotten ridiculous. Note how the concern is over ""naughty language"" in a f*cking war movie? No, we''re not worried about the intestines strewn all over the beach, but nameless GI #56 just said ""sh*t!"" Time to crackdown! Ugh.
Psychotic Foreign Teenage Chicks are so hot. - Legion
I find it ironic anytime a healthy vaccinated person bitches about science...on the internet. - MaverickDago
Also, the concerns are also over the violence, not just the dirty words America''s children would never hear if not for televison.
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
Well, I guess you won''t be seeing NBC re-air Schindler''s List any time soon. What are they going to replace that with? Gomer Pyle?
"Men like sex, thus boobies! Oogaba!" - dejanzie
"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
how rock can be commercial-free!
'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
This is such a load of crap. It''s one thing if you''ve got stupid rockstars springing profanity and nipples on an unsuspecting public. It''s entirely another when they''re running a full length movie, that if you weren''t aware of its content already, will be disclaimed to hell and gone before and during its airing.
People that complain about this sort of thing just flat need to get a clue. You don''t like the language and violence in the movie? Change the damn channel! It still escapes me how such a trivial concept is always overlooked by the whiners who are offended by everything.
Joedeth
Ironjoe
What is so bad is the FCC is only partly to blame.
We also need to say something about the people who would call and complain about it. Yes it has F-bombs in it, don''t allow your young kids to watch!
If you don''t like it, read a book or change the channel.
I don't think I've ever said this sentence before, but man would I love to hump that butterfly.-- KrazyTaco
One phone call and you're melting like butter over my kettle pop. -- Edwin to Mex
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=493&e=1&u=/ap/movie_canc...
I stand corrected, then. Still, since all these naughty words are so damaging, I''m considering bringing forth a lawsuit against those evil fourth graders that taught me all those dirty words in after-school care back in the day, since they apparently did irrevocable damage to me.
Psychotic Foreign Teenage Chicks are so hot. - Legion
I find it ironic anytime a healthy vaccinated person bitches about science...on the internet. - MaverickDago
I hear John Edwards isn''t doing anything right now
Unfortunately, if I slash my wrist with my lightsaber it cauterizes instantly. - PurEvil on emo Star Wars plots.
Yup. We are so better off watching camera footage off laser-guided bombs hitting Badgad neightborhoods or something. That is approved of.
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No kidding. I wouldn''t put myself in the ''easily disturbed'' demographic by any means. I watch all the latest/greatest action/adventure/violence/horror movies with narry a flinch.
But what I have found myself being bothered by, of late, is some of the news footage that''s been getting airtime. Whether it be the latest fighting in Iraq, or the recent asshat trying to commit suicide by cop at the Mexican consulate here in LA. When I make the connect that it''s real people involved in the violence, I get a bit unsettled.
That being said, I think they *should* be showing this stuff, especially the war stuff. It''s *important* that we see it. However, it''s getting to where I can''t turn on the evening news when the kids are about. While I think it''s important for the adults in the country to bear witness to this stuff - it ain''t for the kids.
Joedeth
Ironjoe
I wonder how many of you would be unhappy when you hear a shop keepr, business owner, or a doctor complain about the insane regulations that they have to deal with. This just further proves that the governmetn has too many regulations and regulators that are inhibiting businesses from doing honest work.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
I find it more than a little offensive to compare a film meant to reflect the suffering of a group of brave and selfless men with a cheap and sleazy event on a already sleazy halftime show.
This film has been shown before on ABC, twice nationally if I recall correctly.
Suddenly the FCC will come down on them and they are ""afraid"", I see it as little more than a political statement about the FCC and it''s enforcement.
I think a double standard here is more than acceptable.
"We do not come in peace, we come ahead of peace to secure it's arrival by force of arms"
I''m not sure if this is more regualtion or public outrage problems. If you believe the FCC, they go by people calling in by determining if it was detrimental. If people would not call in and change the channel it might not be so much of a problem.
I don't think I've ever said this sentence before, but man would I love to hump that butterfly.-- KrazyTaco
One phone call and you're melting like butter over my kettle pop. -- Edwin to Mex
2005 GWJFFL2 Champion
The problem is that current FCC procedures prohibit the FCC from apriori commenting on whether a particular program would violate their ""standards"". That would be censorship. Couple that with the newly aggressive penalties which I think are unreasonable given, for example, the modest fines imposed for white collar crime (note that a violation of FCC standards is not a crime, I am just drawing a comparison). For example, Martha Stewart.
Oh, and did I mention that their arbitrary and capricious ""standards"" twist and turn in the wind depending on whether the leader of Focus on the Family woke up on the right side of the bed or not? I guess I just did. The standards are unreasonably vague and subject to the political whim of whichever party is in power. Establish set regulations as to what is and is not permissible. No more of this Potter Stewart-wannabe flip-flopping crap: ""I can''t define obscenity, but I know it when I see it.""
Ulairi, this is so off base, it is funny. Not in a "ha ha" kind-of-way. The regulations concerning shop keepers, business owners and doctors are defined. Established. They create certainty. The FCC''s post-broadcast broadcast-executive kill-zone now in existence is very different.
I am sorry, but what government regulations and regulators are inhibiting businesses from doing honest work? Are you talking about the gag-rules that prevent doctors from (or at least create roadblocks to) dispensing information about birth control and abortion (the right to each of the foregoing is still the law of the land)? That''s honest work, and yes they are being inhibited. But I digress . . . .
The standards are, in my opinion, overbroad and ambiguous. I salute the executives of these ABC affiliates -- as I think it is important that we understand that current FCC policy has a chilling effect -- a bad and unnecessary chilling effect -- on speech occurring on the nation''s airwaves.
Let me be clear: personally I''d like to string up both Timberlake and Jackson for their ridiculous behavior. And then again for their lying about it. If you are going to be outrageous, at least be honest about it. But for goodness sake, lets have the FCC impose sound, recognizable, determinable, discrete and definable standards.
Oh, and on an aside, now that Ashcroft is leaving the Justice Department, let''s uncover lady liberty. She''s been under wraps for far too long (you know what they say, ""out-of-sight, out of mind"").
Edited for nits.
Gamer Tag -- Edgar Newt
No it isn''t. The rules haven''t changed at all.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
Ulairi''s right in that regard, at least. The only thing that''s changed is enforcement, something which would be very hypocritical on the FCC''s part if they decide to punish stations showing Saving Private Ryan now when they hadn''t in the past four years.
"Men like sex, thus boobies! Oogaba!" - dejanzie
"If ads put your sanity to the test
come on down to Rat Boy's nest!
light up a stogie, and soon you'll see
how rock can be commercial-free!
'I'd hit it!'" - HP Lovesauce
The rules haven''t changed, but both the interpretation of the rules and the penalty/fine ceiling have changed dramatically.
If I risked losing my house every time I failed to meet the home owner''s association''s beautification requirements, when just a few months ago I risked only a modest fine, I''d consider that a change.
Gamer Tag -- Edgar Newt
Just because they start to enforce the rules doesn''t mean they have changed. I think if we''re going to have these rules, which I think are stupid, we should enforce them.
This is no different from some zoning comissioner trying to hurt a business. The only difference is that the elite left (different than the standard left) is against this. I think if people knew all of the regulations that are forced on to businesses, they would be just as upset.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988