Tolkien may have been right after all.

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JRR Tolkien insisted that Middle-Earth had really existed at some point in ancient history and wasnt just a mythological story he invented. Now,according to this story, there might be proof he was right after all.

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Maybe they found a midget...

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I always figured JRR was referring to the fact ""Middle Earth"" is a fair translation of historical old Norse''s ""Midgard.""

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Maybe they found a midget...

That''s what I thought that first. But near the end of the article they said more was found.

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I''d be wary of a Halloween prank here. Not that it wouldn''t be exciting if true.

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"Fletcher1138 wrote:
I''d be wary of a Halloween prank here. Not that it wouldn''t be exciting if true.

Hey, RTFA! It was found 13 months ago along with the fragments of six other skeletons.

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I''m a hobbit.

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Don''t swear at me, bucko. Even with acronyms. I did read it, thank you very much, and I hope its true, too. But in case you haven''t noticed, people sometimes print things that aren''t true. Especially (gasp! hide the women!) on the Internet.

Besides, you can''t validate the article in question by referencing the article itself. If they''re going to make up the whole story to begin with they can make up the part about when they found it.

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"Fletcher1138 wrote:
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Oh for the love of _insert deity_. Will you leave me alone if I bow before your awesome correctness and swear fealty to the almighty truth that spurts out of your fingertips?

I don''t mind being wrong, but I hate being spanked with it. Does that make me shallow?

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I''m not sure if that''s in jest or if you''re actually irritated, so I apologize if trying to exchange information has somehow offended you.

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Not at all. Forgive me, my friend, for giving you reason to doubt my light-heartedness.

In truth, I posted without all of the facts, and I owe you a debt of gratitude for correcting me.

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Phew, ok. So, interest in this thread and a Mesopotamian mythology reference in another (I admit to needing Google. My only book on Sumerian mythology is collecting dust currently), you an anthropologist?

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Worse, former English major. Dropped out to pursue a life of poverty (i.e. theater). I build sets, write plays and teach college students how not to kill themselves.

Your post did irk me, but in an endearing kind of way. Made me think of that story. Gilgamesh and Enkidu eventually became friends after beating the holy crap out of each other.

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This is pretty freaking cool information. Not the missing link that we need but still a really cool look at evolution at work. However, I don''t think this necessarily means much of anything though. It''s basically just a bunch of hairy dwarfs running around and working with humans. HOBBITS!!!

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Tolkien was a hardcore Christian for most of his life, as was his best mate C.S. Lewis. He was a christian at the time of writing the trilogy, so I very much doubt he belived there was a mythic land once upon a time.

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Well, the RTFA comment felt weird coming out of my keyboard anyway. It was more a reference to the scathing comments at Slashdot when someone misses some minutiae in a linked article.

As for beating each other into pub buddies, if you need to feel better about your Burnout 3 skills you should schedule up a GWJ game. I thought I was doing well given my single-player progress but during my one Live excursion night I got to experience the other people recounting the race while I finished my errands and poked across the line...

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I see your point, Ranger, but isn''t the entirety of the Old Testament about a ''mythic land once upon a time?''

I mean, I haven''t been to bible study in well ... ever, but some of those guys lived to be two hundred years old. And that whole pillar of salt thing? Come on!

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I thought one of the basic tenets of Christianity was that he was saying ""Yeah, all that old stuff is all well and good, but basically, be excellent to one another.""

You don''t have to be a pagan to believe in other worlds or previous earths. In fact, the more familiar you become with the bible, particularly the OT, the more you must come to the conclusion that either a)someone''s not telling us the whole story(i.e. just who did Cain need ''protecting'' from?) or b)it''s just as much allegory as all the parables. Either way, there''s more in heaven and earth than is told in the bible.

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Your recount mirrors my experience almost exactly, LM. I would love to get together with some of you guys for some bush-league Burnout.

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I will have to check, but I could swear in the Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition cd (somewhere in the bonus features), someone comments something to the effect that Tolkien really believed Middle-Earth had existed.

Maybe I misunderstood it or whoever said it was just full of BS, and Tolkien never made such a comment. Either way I''m definitely gonna try & find it. I''m on a mission now damnit!

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I emailed a version of the story to my brother- and suggested that these were the Firvulag of ""The Golden Torc"" and ""The Many-Colored Land"".....

I''m just happy that we are still able to discover neat things about our past....

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