Half Life: Source
Thursday, October 21st, 2004 - 9:42am
CS:Source and DoD:Source are all well and good, but just not fantabulous. Playing through Half-Life again in the newer engine's glory, though, is a different story. Wonder if that will become available with the purchase of the plain, vanilla version HL2.
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I don''t know about that. Apparently they''re only tweaking some aspects, like physics and water effects - textures and sounds stay the same. That''s not worth a replay to me.
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Me neither.
I don''t remember the details on the retail packages, but on Steam you have to at least get the silver package to get it.
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With all the waiting, i''ve gone completely off the Half Life 2. There are so many other great games that have actually been released, I cant actually see any reason to look forward to it now.
Has DoD: Source offically been released?
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No. I haven''t found a write up on it either. I want to know whats new and different and wether its worth getting it over any other WW2 game.
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My buddy was saying how it would be nice if they released the HL:Source before HL2 so he could play through it again before continuing the story.
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No. Valve also haven''t dropped any hints (AFAIK) as to when it might be.
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PG Gamer has some small actually tiny screenshots of HL:Source... and other than the new physics and water textures its pretty much the same game.. I think the slighty upgraded textures from Blue Shift make it into the game though..
Valve did confirm (sorta) that an independent complete Source (Textures et. al.) overhaul of HL is being done. Not sure who will qualify for this though.
Aint nothing new about the world order..it's been playing since the day they put George Washington on a quarter
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I''m not buying it either
Now that''s a pretty damn good idea. Release it a bit early for Steam guys as a lead-in. A bit of a warm up to the story. I wonder why they haven''t tried that. Unless they have that in the collector''s edition box, and I bet Vivendi won''t let them put it out over Steam until the box is on shelves.
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While waiting for HL:Source, why not make do with HL2 source in the meantime?
During the CS:Source beta, the developers said on the official DoD forums that they all had been moved over to work on CS:S until it was done. I wouldn''t expect DoD:S for a while.
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I read an opinion (somewhere, can''t find it now) that the reason they aren''t releasing HL:S early is the fear that instead of whetting the appetite, too many folks were going to get confused and/or wrathful about the textures not being any better and somehow assume HL2 was going to look the same.
Personally, I''m of the opinion that anyone who managed to come to that conclusion should be prohibited from breeding. Or talking out loud, for that matter. HL is still fun for me to play through even now, knowing HL2 is less than a month away and getting it with <air quotes>just</air quotes> the new physics engine would be some sort of blend of nostalgia and nirvana. And so I''ll coin a phrase for it: nirvstalgia!
As for not looking forward to the game, I understand the silver package is a hefty burden on the wallet for effectively a blind purchase, but seriously... find someone who''s purchased it, go over to their house, play CS:S and then think about the ramifications of that engine laid over even just a half-ass storyline & plot. If that''s not enough to get you even a little excited, then I fear you''re in for a long line of disappointing game releases. That would be sad.
Why you heretic? You''re gonna warez it instead? Unless you really hate FPS games, and I mean HATE em, I don''t understand why you''d skip this one. Money? Sell a kidney. Time? Quit your job. You see? No reason.
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I''m waiting for Vampire Bloodlines to experience the joy of :Source.
As further hearsay confirmation, I read an interview about HL2, etc. yesterday where Gabe (?right?) said that the porting of HL to :Source was a ""test"" of what modmakers would go through when trying to port their HL mods to :Source. Additonally the Valvers had rather ... firm opinions about altering the orignal any more than was necessary to get it into the :Source engine. For those reasons, the sound, etc are ""pure"", unlike CS:S.
I''m loving the game I''ve got now, so I don''t really see a need to get another one just now. It makes deciding what to play so much easier.
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Is it bad that I''m looking forward to the SDK almost as much as the actual game? I''m envisioning MAD 1337 MODS... something I discussed with my brother a few days ago and made me nearly swoon with the possibility of it all... hear me out now... GTA:*ANYTHING* in Source! Given the time and the imagination of our vast online communities, working together to bring this vision to light... I see... I see vast possibility. I cannot know the scripting limitations yet. But can anyone tell me, other than a matter of sheer processing power... why this couldn''t be possible? It would, of course, be developed under the multiplayer module of HL2, and utilize a custumizable game-mode. You know: free-for-all mayhem, Team objectives (take out the bikers!! Pillage the bar!!), Helo-battles, Smoking piles of rubble left after a particularly vocal gang disagreement. A pipe dream certainly, but without dreamers... eh?
I''m actually sketching out some ideas for this. This concept, or a very similar one, may finally be the nudge I need to dust off my programming books!
Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.
Honestly, I hope HL2 remains on the scene for the next 6 years like the original. Without those years, people wouldn''t find such wonderful and creative ways to put the engine to a very good use.
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hahahahahaha oh god. This is actually the first time I realize this guy isn''t just nodding.
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I also think that HL Source would be a nice little bonus for purchasers waiting for HL2. But, I understand their concerns about customer confusion. While most of us here on this board may be fairly sensible and reasonable types who can understand that HL Source isn''t indicative of the quality of HL2, there are an awful lot of people out there who aren''t that sensible.
And we have a winner.
13 year olds everywhere would start screaming ""T3h HL2 eNginE r t3h sux!"" and valve would never hear the end of it.
Funny fact of the moment: It took me about 5 minutes to type out the l337 speak version of ""The Half-Life Two engine sucks."". I guess I''m just not l337 at all.
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I''d love to play HL: Source before HL2 comes out, because I''m pretty certain I don''t have the self control to play HL: Source first if they are made available at the same time. To the customer confusion reasoning for delaying HL: Source, I say ""so what""? The customers will have already paid for the whole package, so if they''re confused and disappointed in HL: Source they can be pleasantly surprised when they play HL2 and all will be well in the end. In the meantime, the people who have a clue will enjoy replaying the slightly improved original game before continuing the story with HL2. Everybody ends up happy.
Come to think of it, I''d be surprised if many people who buy HL2 via Steam would suffer from this confusion and not appreciate an early release of HL:S. The people who don''t know any better (or don''t care) will be buying the cheapest retail package at Wal-Mart.
Point taken Diragor. Point taken.
I shall at least attempt to put more thought into future responses to similiar topics. I do not however guarantee any results from this attempt
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If you buy the silver package don''t you get Valve''s backlog on Steam which includes the original Half-Life?
Um...yes...my words exactly!
"Three blokes go into a pub. One of them is kind of stupid, and the whole scene unfolds with a tedious inevitability." - Bill Bailey
But we can always hope that someone in the mod community will come up with their home-brewed version of HL: Source.
Right? Hopefully? Please?
"Three blokes go into a pub. One of them is kind of stupid, and the whole scene unfolds with a tedious inevitability." - Bill Bailey
I don''t think the ""no HL:S until HL2"" theory was a good one, I''m just saying I saw that held up as a reason why it wasn''t done that way. It certainly could be released now, it''s been done for some time apparently (last seen in the latest PC Gamer). So there must be a reason...
Plus, what''s the saturation point where enough idiots start lambasting HL:S as evidence HL2 is going to suck so that it starts to get traction in the general publics collective head. You and me... no way it would ever impact us. Joe Average walking through BestBuy... probably not, but maybe. Why risk it to just indulge in a little nirvstalgia on our parts?