Gaming and Luck

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I'm putting this in Games, but it might be "Everything Else"...

Over years of gaming, I've come to a realization that there are some days/times I just shouldn't game. Seems something is off, that I call luck- that no matter how many times I try a scenario or pick up where I left off in a game, my play is off...

On the other hand, sometimes I'll just sit down and play and the stuff that has stymied- sometimes for years- just falls away and I'm firing on all cylinders.

Case in point: I started up a Kohan: Ahriman's Gift campaign over the weekend (it was rainy and yucky). I never got past scenario 2 before; this time I played it through successfully and then went on to win 3 and 4; now to start Scenario 5. Oddest thing, since I haven't played it in 2 years.

Has anyone else experienced this same kind of karma? And then there are times I'll play a game, hit a gameplay roadblock and say "Enough!" time to drop it till I'm ready again. That I'm conscious of the failure of my "lucK".....

I did this in "Dungeon Siege" a couple of times, but actually succeeded in playing that to a conclusion in about a month of start and stop campaigning.

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Has anyone else experienced this same kind of karma?

Yeah Certis and I experienced that playing ESPN NHL2K5 friday night. He was all luck and I was a sh*t out of it.

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I don''t know about the ""luck"" or ""karma"" connection, but I do know for me it is nearly impossible to game during the work week. I just don''t have the energy or concentration for it.

I may play a couple hours if at all during the week, but a Saturday or Sunday session from 8 a.m. until 3 or 4 is more my norm, and I play better then.

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I had this the other night - I was complaining about it on another thread - where the Joint Ops lag was awful, I couldn''t do much in game due to intermittent slideshowiness, server populations were all screwy, so I couldn''t find one I liked, and I wished I''d just played Burnout.

Then, the next night, I decided to just pop in because a bunch of GWJers were doing a map I like(the Lumber Mill) and it ended up being a really great, painfully long, hard-fought map that was extremely satisfying when it was over. And then I ""quit on a winner"" as my dad used to tell me, and went off to play Burnout.

Which is the best game evar.
My wife is totally addicted. We played together last night, taking turns on crash intersections, and at least 3 times she said ""I love this game.""
Which is cool, because I love when things work out right. I just gotta learn to listen to the little voice in my head more often. It''s usually right, except for when it''s the dog telling me to filet the neighbors. Just kidding.

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GTA3: VC. I could never get past the RC helecopter demolition mission until one day it all synch''d up. In MechWarrior 2 there was a mission where you had to blow up a cooling unit and then bug out in a medium mech. I could never get past it then *bam* I got past it. I was freakin'' stunned that I pulled it off.

More recently, in the Tribe Beta I hit the top of the list while struggling, in vain, to defend the flag. Not sure what I did right, but my name was all over the place; top of the list, most flag returns, most Mid-Air discs.

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Yeah, I''ve had this happen a lot. Some days you have it, some days you don''t. I know there are several games I''ve stopped playing out of frustration with the difficulty of a certain mission. Months later I''ll go back, not remembering why I quit and play through the next few missions without trouble before realizing that I had been hopelessly stuck when I quit.

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The same thing happens to me with Counter Strike.

But I liken it more to ''inconsistency'' than ''luck'' or the lack thereof.

I''ll have rounds (hmm... Aztec, CT side) where I''ll go 3 and 17 and honestly feel like quitting and uninstalling the game. Then, we''ll switch maps (or I''ll log off and play the next day) and go 19 and 5, having multiple kill rounds.

It''s just frustrating - I''d even kick down my ''top skill time'' a few notches to always be at that level... to be known as the guy who, without fail, will do pretty well. Better than sucky with a few shining moments.

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Luck I think is in everything... Yu have to balance skill with luck... Anytime a game has anything random (so basically all online games) and all RPGs you have to have luck and skill on your side... in the end skill can be killed by luck and luck can out do skill.... just depends how much of each is on your side at the time.... You might want to consider getting a rabbits foot modded into your mouse!

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Yeah I''ve had that happen. I wouldn''t call it luck or karma tho. I think it''s desire and just being in the mood. If I play too much I lose interest in games so I have to balance it out.

Sometimes I look at a game and I sorta half-heartedly play it. I''ll finally quit cause I''m just not in the mood to solve puzzles or what not and I''ll shelf it for a few months or weeks or days. Then, if and when I visit the game again, it''s with a refreshed mind and a new perspective and a slight familiar feeling from having dabbled in the game before and wha la it''s a different beast and it''s fun.

For games like bf42 which I still play I can''t play it everyday any more. I burn out. My interest level and performance stays much higher if I play say twice/week. Also helps if I try different things within a game to keep my interest up. Bf42, for instance, I switch between classes, vehicles, stationary guns, offense/defense, etc to keep myself interested and challenged.

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"painthappens wrote:
Luck I think is in everything... Yu have to balance skill with luck... Anytime a game has anything random (so basically all online games) and all RPGs you have to have luck and skill on your side... in the end skill can be killed by luck and luck can out do skill.... just depends how much of each is on your side at the time.... You might want to consider getting a rabbits foot modded into your mouse!

NOTE: A Painthappens post that is smiley free. <insert biblical awe style music>

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I agree with the many point''s folks have made here. My
example is Alien vs. Predator (well most recent). I got it when it first came out and didn''t get very far. Just installed it a few weeks ago and I''m much farther now. Actually this has happened with MOO2 and X-Com (this was great, but I was always moving on to other games. But this time I really got far into it...so very good).

Mood and such can be it too, but there is that ''it all falls into
place'' aspect. One can have ''it''. And ''luck'' is part of the cosmic crap shoot. As Napoleon once said (or close), ''...I''d rather have a lucky general then a good one...'' (in Corsican French of course)

When I''m on in America''s Army or Jo or whatever, it''s a nice sprinkling of both (i.e. skill and luck) that really(!) make''s it a sweet session of success.

And as Ducki mentioned, it''s so great to find a game that the Mrs. (in my case SO) really digs a game and playing with you (or without you!...but she''s ''playing''(!!) . Life is good at those times

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I''ve experienced this most recently with Burnout3. Those damned timed races against the clock.. god I hate them. I''ve hit 2 so far that just had me stuck. I was hell bent on just doing them to get them out of the way so I could continue with the fun stuff.. but after 50 tries of either crashing (usually near the end) or coming in .5 second too slow, I finally just got tired of yelling at the TV screen. Then the next day I pick it up and knock out the race on my first try and wonder why the hell it was so hard before.

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When I used to play Jedi Knight 2 online quite competatively, I learned to accept this as a fact of life. There are times you can just kinda unfocus your eyes a bit and see the whole screen rather than part of it. I played so often and so much that I was basically running on autopilot. That''s when I did my best.
I learned to figure out quite early when I wasn''t going to be able to do that and called it a day instantly.
So yeah, I know exactly what you''re talking about.
And CEJ, I was stuck on the exact same mission, I believe. I just grabbed a the smallest mech you could, [firefox?] put almost all of my weight into engines, ran past/around everyone.

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Oh yes. It happens mostly in multiplayer games, and annoyingly often in counterstrike for some reason. There''s been times when I''ve mangaged to butcher the entire enemy team singlehandedly for consequetive rounds, and a while later everything''s off and I''m the first to go down five rounds in a row. Very aggrevating.

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"Morrolan wrote:
And CEJ, I was stuck on the exact same mission, I believe. I just grabbed a the smallest mech you could, [firefox?] put almost all of my weight into engines, ran past/around everyone.

*gets in the way back when machine* I think I did something similar but with a vulture (?). Nothin'' but small lasers if I remember right.

Now, a game that required luck; MechCommander. anyone finish the original? (not the second one that was published by MS).

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Luck is some, but supposedly the ''learning curve'' looks more like a learning staircase. The mind intigrates and stores what it''s leaned in ''chunks'' so you''ll find yourself better at things than you thought even after a break. So I hear anyway.

All this science I don't understand. It's just my job five days a week.

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Location: PNW

"Dr_Awkward wrote:
Luck is some, but supposedly the ''learning curve'' looks more like a learning staircase. The mind intigrates and stores what it''s leaned in ''chunks'' so you''ll find yourself better at things than you thought even after a break. So I hear anyway.

What happen''s when the mind is maxed and now loosing
synapsis(envision a old boat taking on water if you will)?
(and I''m talking about the part that works of course

Another factor is ''staying loose''. If you are more relaxed and sort of what Morrolan mention''s, ''...kinda of unfocus...'', you do indeed become more one with the surrondings and can do amazing things (Buddhist ''unfocused focus'' of ''enlightenment''. Hey wait, this is getting way to heavy *Chuckle*

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"Vega wrote:
I''ve experienced this most recently with Burnout3. Those damned timed races against the clock.. god I hate them. I''ve hit 2 so far that just had me stuck. I was hell bent on just doing them to get them out of the way so I could continue with the fun stuff.. but after 50 tries of either crashing (usually near the end) or coming in .5 second too slow, I finally just got tired of yelling at the TV screen. Then the next day I pick it up and knock out the race on my first try and wonder why the hell it was so hard before.

Thank god I''m not the only one.

It happened to me so far on 3 of the timed lap races. I hate that crap. It''s like they just had to find some godawful way of interrupting the modes that are actually fun.

Thankfully the rest of the game is so good that I still feel the need to persist and earn gold medals even in the races I despise.

I particularly hated one of the special events where you have to drive the F1 car. I was always just a couple of 10ths of a second off, or I wrecked very close to the end of the lap.

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what I would call ""The Zone.""

when I start playing a game when I should be doing something else, have to do something else, or I have to go somewhere within 1-2 hours of my starting. that''s when I play the best.

example: XMas on the SNES and Super Mario All Stars, or the PSX with Loaded, and we had to leave for a relative''s house soon. it''s also bad when I go for ""one more game before I leave, I have time,"" and I miss dinner.

for some reason, when I set aside time to play games, many times I play poorly or get extremely pissed off.

example: NBA Jam and Mortal Kombat on release days for Genisis, Soul Edge on PSX, Burnout 3 for XBox.

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"Mills wrote:
example: XMas on the SNES and Super Mario All Stars, or the PSX with Loaded, and we had to leave for a relative''s house soon. it''s also bad when I go for ""one more game before I leave, I have time,"" and I miss dinner.

You are not alone in this my friend. This how people who are suppose to start work at 8 AM end up coming in at noon. Of course this was pre-marriage and kids but happened none-the-less. Can you say Civ I and just one more damn turn? I thought you could.

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There are times you can just kinda unfocus your eyes a bit and see the whole screen rather than part of it.

This is a core concept in one of the ancient japanese/chinese martial writings. I forget which one, but I think it may be The Book of Five Rings. When you focus on an opponent, or more importantly, part of an opponent(i.e. sword arm, feet, head) you become easy to fake out. When you unfocus your eyes and ... well, essentially, use the force, Luke, you become difficult to fake out, and better aware of the entire situation, not just the part you can focus on at any given moment.
You flow like the river, sway like the willow.

On folks getting frustrated at Burnout, I just can''t see that. For me. I''ll try a race a couple of times, and if I''m not ""there"", I try a different one. It''s like Penny Arcade said, you unlock stuff so frequently, there''s always something new to try out. If you start to scream at the screen, you can just hit another challenge/track/intersection. Yeah, load times suck, but you have almost the same amount of load time switching events as you do retrying an event, so I find it much easier to sample everything like a buffet as opposed to working my way through a 7 course meal one course at a time.

That''s just me, though.
It also helps to play it in the taking turns way of handing the controller back and forth. You try, someone else tries, etc. It definitely alleviates any potential banging-your-head-against-a-brick-wall sensation you might get.

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